... to expect people who use parent & baby car parking spaces to have children with them?

[fryalot]

Or am I the only who gets fed up of waiting for a space because they are all filled with lazy b***ds who can't be bothered to walk an extra yard?

I think Prettycandes is referring to the fact that there are allocated spaces for bbs and p&t, and that this is for a reason. Usually alot more bb spaces than p&ts in most places.

No, I did mean exactly what I said. Granted it's a bit of a sweeping statment, but then so is lumping every bb holder as being entitled to use the p&t spaces.

Only the individuals themselves can decide exactly whether they can manage without the concession. So we may have opinions, but c an't really define exactly who and in what circumstances a person can and cannot use the concesion space, we can only generalise.

My mum is a bb holder because she has great difficulty in walking any distance, but the only way I would consider it acceptable for her to use a p&t place would be if all teh bb places were full and she was bursting to the loo. Otherwise I'd say either wait for a free place, or park at the nearest spot you can manage to walk from.

p&t places would be much less abused if they weren't so near the shop, but slightly further away yet with a safe route to the shop and near a well-stocked trolley park.

thats because bb holders need the spaces, and well, most people know how i feel about pt spaces. most of the time i avoid them like the plague. in town i drive to the top of the multi story as its a lot easier than dodging people with prams o nthe lower levels.

Don't care in the slightest. Never will and never did. Sorry.

However I have often thought that pinktulips suggestion is sensible - no-one would bother with them if they were on the far side of the car park.

omg word fail me

pc unless i can find a end space for dh then we cant park in the nearest place he can walk from. individual circumstances like you say. so if no bb spaces then we go to pt if they are free. EVEN if we dont have a child with us (very unlikely as usually have dd3 clamped to my hip, limpet child)

Fair enough, Misdee. Your individual circumstances.

Befor I had the van I would park WEREVER it was easiest to get dd out of the car. if no db's then a p&T space. (and would do the same if I had my disabled MIL with me.

exactly. and if anyone challenged me and dh i would probbaly either hand them a donor leaflet, but if i am stressed to high heavens like today, well, i cant really say what i would do tbh.

It would be nice to get INTO p&c spaces.. I find that in my local supermarket the disabled spots far exceed the p&c ones... for example in the town one here there are 8 p&c and over twice that in disabled slots. It would be nice to address the balance as both are needed equally..

(btw can anyone tell me how to get a disabled badge for my SN dd???)

I don't have a problem with blue badge holders using P & T spaces if there are no disabled spaces available. They have a very real need to use the space. In fact if I saw someone with an elderly person using a P & T space it wouldn't offend me either, if they had a need. What I do object to is seeing people using the spaces when they don't have a child, when they have children of say 7 or over, especially when thier children are teenagers and definately when they have a massive car they can't park! Don't buy the car if you can't blinking well park the thing!

I have 3 DS, 13, 4 and 2 and obviously use the spaces when I have the two little ones, but wouldn't dream of it if I only had DS1!!

One woman complained to another about using a space while I was getting back into my car once saying ' You do realise these spaces are for parents and children?' To which the offending woman replied ' Yes I am the parent and she is my child' pointing at a woman of at least 30 I mean ow lazy are some people!!!!

peachy-have just skimmed thread

I'm sure you know this, but you don't actually need higher rate mobility to get a blue badge. The council will have a form. A letter from your doctor can help. Its def not unusual for a kid with autism to get a blue badge but no HRM. Sorry if this is bloody obvious and you have known it for 4 1/2 years.

I'd never ever use a disabled space either!!!

Filly no, nobody told me. I have 1 with AS, i with provisional dx ASd, and the HV told me that the combined didn't count towards a blue badge!!!!

Thank you.

How many others I wonder?

Fio - that really is something to complain about. It's like some kind of sick joke.

I hate people who park in them when they dont have kids, but i have no objection to bb holders parking in them if all their spaces are taken.

fio, thats awful

3andnomore

The point is....if I am cold I park in the space closest to the store, it is a quiet store as I stay in a village and the point of having a car seat in the back is that if anyone were to drive past and see me in the PT space, how are they going to know I have no child with me? So why would it bother them?

Unless of course they had life....and came looking!

No life, not life...

I have been with son who was bb holder, and I would park in disabled if he was having trouble with mobility and p&t if he was not. I would Never mind someone with bb parking in p&t spots.

btw - I can confirm that you don't need to be getting higher rate to get bb in all circs - we got one when DS2 was on crutches (though I suspect that some of the docs who do the assessments are more impressed with obvious phisical problems (please don't take offence if I have put that very badly - it is not meant in ANY negative way)). And we were getting nothing from DLA