... to expect people who use parent & baby car parking spaces to have children with them?

[fryalot]

Or am I the only who gets fed up of waiting for a space because they are all filled with lazy b***ds who can't be bothered to walk an extra yard?

Okay so shoot me butI do this regularly at my local supermaket... I would never use a disabled space but I have a baby car seat in my car so, hey why not!!

What about using a P&T space at nightime? Last night I was in London SOHO car park -not supermarket and there was a P&T space I was very tempted to park in it but I didn't but it was very tempting because imo people shouldn't be out with their little children in soho at nightime.

I gave up on trying to get M&T spaces when my DTS were about 8mo. So many times I have seen healthy child free drivers park in these spaces because they are too lazy to park elsewhere. Meanwhile, I had to struggle getting 2 babies in and out of a car when there were cars on either side.

Now, I shop when the boys are at nursery or if they are with me, I take the pram and walk and just get a basket full.

Well yes, after we've all walked on water whilst watching the flying pigs we may no longer need mobility! Oh that's OK then. I'll start car shopping!

So do the people who get irritated by disabled people parking in P and T spots, get irritated by special school buses stopping to pick up disabled children. Because the idiots that beep at ds1's bus dont irritate, they piss me off beyond belief (and I make sure I take longer to get him on the bus) Idiots.

Mellow- I wouldn't care. As long as you weren't taking a disabled space when we needed it I wouldn't give a stufff. And yep if its after what I call bedtime (7pmish say_) then I park in P and T spots.

It is just basic good manners and shows consideration when you leave P&T and Disabled spaces for those people who genuinely need them.

yep 7 seater Fio. The seats just pop up. Very safe cars (think all Renaults are). The b ack seat isn't really any good for anything other than a booster seat though.

But I must admit that before children, I would park in M&B spaces (only when it was after 8 in the evening and the car park was fairly empty.)

You certainly see things from a different perspective once you have kids and now I understand WHY mums need the extra space

Oh yes...its always after say half 6ish - when its cold.

The disabled ones are right out front so I would not park there but the PT ones are at the side of the store, so I do it sometimes...not ALL the time...

Actually, I think we are very lucky that they exist at all. On the occasions I take the boys to the supermarket, I look for a p&t space, but if they are all gone, hey ho.

Life's too short to iron socks and worry about parking spaces, imho

jimjams - I am truly sorry I upset you.

Ohhhh don't get me started. My dad is a disabled driver (he is an above the leg amputee, though not for the reasons on MissGolightly's post ) and he tends to challenge people who park in D spaces. My son also has a blue badge for when he is on crutches (we never use it when he is mobile [smug emoticon]). People without blue badges parking in disabled spaces is generally considered unaccptable now.
People do seem to think it is OK to nick P&T spaces. I was told about a woman (who probably comes on here) who doesn't challenge people who park in P&T places, instead she rushes up to them on their way to or from the car and says "OMG, you must go back, you've left your child in the store/car (depending on which direction they are going in)". I now do this
Also, one of the guys who works in the same building as me was explaining to a group that he parks in P&T because it prevents his car getting scratched in the smaller spaces. He seemed quite surprised when I called him a selfish B

Ah, someone to join me itsmemellowma.

So is it ok for disabled driver to park in P&T spaces when there are free disabled ones???
Maybe the supermarket should swap them round so the P&T were the ones further away!

I have 3 children, 2 who are disabled, and yes I have used the P&B spaces when there are no disbled bays, DS can barely walk now, and is very unstable on his feet so yes I use them, especially in Tesco, where the P&T spaces are closer to the store than the disabled bays. Hell, I have even used the 'expectant mums' bays in Asda.

bloody hell you haven't upset me. I really do have bigger things to worry about. People beeping the school bus don't upset me. I just think they're idiots.

fwiw - I would never beep a school bus (unless it was to wave to the driver, which I confess I have done)

I used to be a very nervous driver so parked away from everyone else, which at my local store happens to be PT spaces, or the loading bay!!

Bigger things to worry about than sitting in front of a computer

oh oh look at me I have children, the world must revolve around me and my children. I must have a space, I have a right to a space, how dare a disable dperson have a space when I have children.

Stop caring about them. Use them if they're free, park somewhere else if they're not. And if you seriously can;t get a child out of a car unless you have a massive space, buy a bloody mini. Above all get a grip.

Not worried JJ, just idley wondering what people thought while I wait for ds to wake up. This is my switch off time, not my get wound up time

Yes life definately too short to get so over-stressed about such trivial things!!

I leave my worry and stress for the biggies in life...and unfortunately seem to have had a few of them!

My my - there were only 3 posts when I started typing mine - go to settle crying baby, come back, post, and find that I have missed a load!