Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be *livid* at this? Attempted murder of man working to make women's sport fairer

356 replies

Sporadicus · 22/09/2016 16:31

So not only did Jeska use their unfair advantage to win medals meant for female athletes, but Jeska then tries to murder the man attemting to restore fairness to women's fell running:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-womens-fell-running-champ-8891893

And yet, the BBC decide it's not relevant to the story that Jeska was born male:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-37439875

OP posts:
airedailleurs · 23/09/2016 18:52

Just shocking for so many reasons and all the more upsetting because I know the victim personally.

The only possible good that could come out of this case, and also the Semenya travesty, is that the Governing Bodies of sport are forced to review their current stance on "trans" or "non-binary" athletes.

airedailleurs · 23/09/2016 18:54

and that is even without starting on the prison issue...just gobsmacking.

Sporadicus · 23/09/2016 18:58

Wishing Ralph a full and speedy recovery aire Flowers

OP posts:
airedailleurs · 23/09/2016 20:17

thank you Sporadicus, I will definitely get in touch to wish him well.

CrazyNameCrazyGuy · 23/09/2016 21:29

Same here aire - I hope he makes a full and swift recovery.

Please thank him too for taking a stand on this and making people aware of the impact this will have/is having on women's sport.

HairyLittlePoet · 23/09/2016 21:36

In addition to wishing Ralph a speedy recovery airedaleeurs, please tell him also that many, many people are supportive of fairness in sport and believe investigations such as his are so important. They must not ever be suppressed for fear of causing offence or resulting in horrific violence such as this.

Reading about his stance regarding sacrificing his rugby place as a protest against apartheid, he clearly abides by a strong ethical principle. I wish him well.

venusinscorpio · 23/09/2016 21:47

YY please add my best wishes for his swift recovery.

venusinscorpio · 23/09/2016 21:48

And what everyone else said. His ethical stance is very much appreciated.

Italiangreyhound · 23/09/2016 21:52

Please add my wishes for a speedy recovery, air. Flowers

Amandahugandkisses · 23/09/2016 22:15

Adding my positive thoughts on his speedy recovery. He is very special and very brave. Let's hope a change can come from something so horrific. Flowers

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 23/09/2016 22:20

My best wishes too. We need more people like him.

AskBasil · 24/09/2016 09:02

Yes, please pass on my thanks and best wishes too, airedailleurs. In fact, I've set up a thread for anyone who wants to wish him well and show him our support

airedailleurs · 24/09/2016 10:08

thanks for all your good wishes, will pass them on! He has been so brave, although I suspect he didn't realise how brave he would need to be when he started his investigation!

PuntasticUsername · 24/09/2016 10:18

Get well vibes and huge thanks to Ralph from me, too Flowers

Beachcomber · 24/09/2016 10:24

Best wishes from me too.

Wishing a good and speedy recovery both physically and emotionally.

AdaLovelacesCat · 24/09/2016 11:22

the BBC are just so wrong. Obviously this was not a woman, why are they making out like it was? 'had a dispute' indeed.....so the nature of the dispute was not an issue? Another crazy woman eh?

Willow2016 · 24/09/2016 12:29

Just adding my best wishes for a speedy recovery to Ralph. He is obviously very brave in challenging the new 'norm' and its appaling that he has been injured because of it.

I dont give a damm what the PC way is to report the crime, the facts speak for themselves, it doesnt take a genius to work out why he was attacked. But it seems that it takes guts to actually say it out loud, sadly lacking in many reporters, newpapers and tv stations these days. And even more guts to point out the bloody obvious about the person committing the attack. Yet again women are pushed to the side by the PC brigade in order to prove to the world how 'inclusive' they are...unless you are an actual woman of course.

DoingTheBestICan · 24/09/2016 13:14

I have just filed a complaint with the BBC

AdaLovelacesCat · 24/09/2016 13:24

and waht about all those women prisoners who are probably mostly there for typical female 'poverty crimes' who will now have to share their space with someone who is so adamant that he is a woman, that if anyone points out that he is not, they get stabbed. Great;

venusinscorpio · 24/09/2016 14:11

He alone will have pushed the entire women in prison for violent crimes stats up, just by being there. We worked it out on a thread earlier this year, it's very scary. It takes so few transwomen to skew the figures so that women look more violent than they are.

Sporadicus · 25/09/2016 11:46

Thank you for the other thread, Basil

OP posts:
AskBasil · 27/09/2016 20:11

Yer welcome. I thought Ralph deserves to know that people are rooting for him. It's such a berserk thing to do to someone.

YelloDraw · 27/09/2016 20:21

Adding my support and thoughts for Ralph too

WankingMonkey · 28/09/2016 19:18

Replies from BBC and guardian over their innacurate reporting in this case, if anyone is interested.

--

Dear Ms Rees

Our reporter wasn't aware that Lauren Jeska was a transgender athlete (which I see from the Mirror and Telegraph stories was not mentioned in court and was only confirmed by the CPS after yesterday's court hearing). So obviously she couldn't have included that information in her article. Nor does its absence not constitute an inaccuracy. Our reporter based her article on was actually were discussed in the hearing – it is not, in the article, "heavily implied that autism is a large reason for the crime". The only reference to autism is a reference to what Jeska’s defence counsel Julie Warburton said – that a diagnosis of autism may be raised at the next hearing, which would be invited to consider whether a “medical disposal” would be available to the sentencing judge. In reporting on court hearings, we are obliged us to provide a fair and accurate account of what actually happened in court. I believe we did so in this case.

Regards
Rory Foster

--------

Dear Ms Reed,

Many thanks for your email. I have read the article very carefully and cannot accept that it is in any way discriminatory against disabled people.

The story centred on coverage of a court case. We did not imply the crime was committed because of autism - we simply reported that Lauren Jeska's defence barrister said a diagnosis of autism might form part of the evidence at the next hearing and this came as part of a quite extensive report into exactly what was submitted as evidence.

There was no mention in court of any potential transgender status so we have not referred to this in our article. It's also important to understand how we report transgender issues from a point of view of avoiding discrimination. This blog we wrote a couple of years ago may be helpful - we would not, for example, refer to someone who identified as female as 'he'.
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/collegeofjournalism/entries/afb4feef-2fea-3663-ae97-7b4111beef2d

Best wishes, and thank you for your feeback,

Laura Ellis, Head of Digital England

----

I need to point out I never once said anything about calling Jeska 'he'. My issue was with leaving out key parts of the story, more specifically the reason for the attack...however mentioning (or implying) autism was a possible reason.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/09/2016 19:39

Does anyone know whether bbc court reports always merely cover what was said in court without looking for any relevant background information? If thats their standard policy, well, it doesn't seem like particularly good journalism but maybe no agenda should be inferred. If it isn't the norm then why be sparse in this case?^^

Swipe left for the next trending thread