To be *livid* at this? Attempted murder of man working to make women's sport fairer

[Sporadicus]

So not only did Jeska use their unfair advantage to win medals meant for female athletes, but Jeska then tries to murder the man attemting to restore fairness to women's fell running:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-womens-fell-running-champ-8891893

And yet, the BBC decide it's not relevant to the story that Jeska was born male:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-37439875

But there are plenty of women generally who commit violent crime, less so than men yes, but ever increasing numbers nonetheless.
Nobody is saying women don't commit violent crime, but that violent crime should be recorded and reported accurately in terms of both perpetrators and victims.

YANBU.

The fact that Jeska is transgender is key to the story of the crime.

I am Spartacus. More than ever now.

Lol Great women never commit violent crimes, yep, that's what I mean, of course. Because women are required to be whiter than white and absolutely beyond reproach, every single one of us, all 3.5 billion, to deserve fairness in sport, accurate reporting, or to be recognised as a biological sex class. You crack me up.

hownotto but the OP did imply that very thing. That's why I asked for clarification of that statement.

So someone born male who commits a premeditated violent act and has the strength to over power an ex rugby player when questioned about their biological sex has been placed in a womans prison. I hope they are in segregation.

So glad someone's here to tell us off for recognising male violence as a pattern, and women's/autistic people's violence as unusual.

And ps. The "increasing numbers" of violent "female" offenders are being skewed by this kind of thing. The police just take violent men's word for it when they say they're women. There is literally no way for us to know how many violent crimes are committed by actual women any more.

The OP said that women and people with autism don't generally go round stabbing people. Key word: generally. OP acknowledged she was generalising, right there. And in comparison to the types of crime committed by men v crimes committed by women, that is a fair/valid generalisation.

NotMe321

I stand by my statement. And FGM is committed against women because of their biology. Not because they feel like a woman that day.

But thanks for lecturing feminists about patriarchal violence against women.

The BBC must have someone high up with a pro trans anti women agenda.......they've been pushing this agenda more and more of late.

And it's fucking disgusting. The TV licence you're all paying is going to fund the trans agenda. 😐

Great I haven't seen any post from OP implying that women don't commit violent crime.

Men - and transwomen - are 18 times more likely to be convicted of a violent crime than women.

As for the autism, I don't think there's any evidence that it's connected to violence. There does appear to be a link between being trans and ASD though.

Thanks so much for this thread. I would never have known the truth about this story without it. Shame on the media who didn't tell the full story.

Women commit crime. We know that.

But putting a crime committed by a transwoman as commuted by women, is scewing the figures.

You wouldn't be able to record a white male commuting a crime as a crime committed by an African person. Because it's wrong.

The trans issue is central to this case.

The autism may or may not be. Although I would love to know how a person goes through the process of transition without anyone picking up in the fact that they have autism and that it severely impacts their ability to make decisions to the point they stab almost kill someone.

How was this never picked up on before?

Again, if this is a bullshit diagnosis her defending team are coming up with to excuse her behaviour, they are fucking around with crime stats again. And that will negatively impact people with autism.

But there are plenty of women generally who commit violent crime, less so than men yes, but ever increasing numbers nonetheless.

I think the point some people are making is that we dont know if it is a womans crime or a transwomans crime

So the ever increasing numbers maybe down to misreporting OR there being more violent women

Prawn I belong to a closed Facebook group for women with Aspergers/ASD and yes from my observation a higher number than the population average consider themselves a gender other than their sex or question their own gender identity. It's fairly obvious to me why this is - young women on the spectrum often have a very faint or non-existent sense of self due to years of "masking", trying to pass as socially normal. It's also common for them not to particularly feel female. Add to this a need for rules and structure in a what is to them a very chaotic world and it's the perfect storm, really.
Conversely they are also overall a very gender-critical bunch!
Again I think that can be a bit of an age divide. The option of having a gender other than your sex just didn't exist in this way in the nineties so I became a grumpy radical feminist instead.

The Times reports this story without evasion today.

There's a phrase which accurately describes the more 'liberal' media reporting: 'Economical with the truth'. Which is of course a euphemism for 'dishonest'.

Marking my place.
This is a shameful moment in the history of the BBC.
Throwing not only women but also people with autism under the bus in an attempt to present a politically skewed message is utterly disgraceful. Those involved in reporting this should be hanging their heads in shame.

It is also depressing to see more accurate reporting in the rightwing press than the left. IMO the leftwing media is crucial, in general, to provide balance to a media controlled by money. But if they shoot their credibility to pieces by such utterly absurd reporting as this their days will be numbered and we will all be the poorer.

I think Woman's Hour really need to do a piece on this. Not this person specifically but the fact that crimes committed by transwomen (so biologically men) are being recorded as being committed by women (if indeed this is the case). And transwomen competing against biological women in sport with all the natural advantage that would give them.

fakename Woman's Hour are too scared. The closest they've come is an uncritical, but slightly hand-wringing piece on the increase in teen girls seeking to identify as boys.

And they put Jenner on the WH power list, giving him a spot a woman should have had so there's that. The BBC are utterly in thrall to the trans agenda.

I just want to know why, really. What are they so scared of?

The only honest reporting I've seen is Janice Turner in the Times, Jemima Lewis in the Telegraph and The Morning Star

When I say honest reporting I mean opinion pieces critical of transing children and removing women's rights.

sporadicus i'm not 'telling you off' for anything, I just asked a question related to a statement you made. you answered it. fair enough. no need for the sarcasm.

The OP said that women and people with autism don't generally go round stabbing people. Key word: generally. OP acknowledged she was generalising, right there.

well men don't generally go round stabbing their colleagues either, do they? I mean the vast majority of men don't go round stabbing anyone for any reason. It's one person who committed this particular crime.

Can some explain the MN 'I am sparticus to me'?

Great but do men use 'I did because I am a man, I can't help it?' as their part of their defence?

Great if you don't recognise male violence as an issue because it's committed largely by individual men, (rather than, what? Big groups of men acting as one?) then I don't know what to say to you tbh.

neutralnancy no worries - I can totally see how you'd draw that conclusion from what a couple of other posters had said.