bus using our driveway to turn around every day.

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Scene - basically, we live on a main road, with a private dead end service road for us to get to our houses and parking spaces. There are 8 houses along our little row. We have a drive outside our house, then the service lane, then another parking space, then a small strip of grass (ours) then the main road.

I have noticed that a small bus (18 seater maybe??) has started collecting a dc from our row of houses, and is using our parking space and grass to turn around each morning and afternoon. The alternative would be to reverse back down the lane and turn around at the entrance.

For some reason this really annoys me that the bus driver does this twice a day. We now have tyre marks on the grass, and I think it will add to the break up of the road surface.
DH is not bothered, saying he has to turn around somewhere, but it annoys me. AIBU?

Why should it be up to OP though?

Why should the family not make place for the bus to turn in their drive?

I'm sure OP would not mind the occasional pick up and drop off, but she doesn't want it becoming a regular occurrence, esp. with the rude driver using her grass area as well.

Actually the OP DID mention wear and tear as a potential issue in the very first post...

...I think it will add to the break up of the road surface.

Which it will.

Given that private roads are very clearly something that relatively few posters have experience with in contrast to those who do have experience of school transport, I'd politely like to remind them that their standard experience of school transport will very likely not apply to a private road. Like I said - transit vans using our road for the business there pay a bigger contribution towards upkeep - as agreed with the business owner that this was a reasonable adjustment. The fleet minibuses used on our council are a mixture - some are minibus size but some are definitely larger and more "coach like" - incidentally these are often used for the special school runs as they are adapted vehicles.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks that the need for the child to be collected trumps the right of the OP (and the other houses in the road) to not have their property (which is the whole road not just the drive or grass) damaged. Just because the damage isn't visible this week doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The op has already stated it's an 18 seater not a coach.

Well she can't have both MoreCoffee , either the child's needs are met or there is wear and tear. Op needs to decide what is more important.

Of course she doesn't. Not her responsibility at all, stop trying to lay a guilt trip on her. She has a right not to have her property damaged by a careless driver. If he can't collect the DC without causing damage then another vehicle will have to be used of the child's family could make space on their drive.

*or

Jeez Louise with all your polite pointing out whilst being completely ignorant to the reality of the given situation.

I don't think I would mind. If the neighbor with the dc would make sure her dc meets the bus at the end of the lane, that would be best. I think it is kind of rude for the neighbor to not notice. They could just have dc go to end of lane unless the child is too young, then the parent could stand with the dc if so. The problem is, how do you get the neighbor to be a good neighbor? Don't have the answer to that...I think it is unreasonable though to expect the bus driver to reverse past 8 houses. This might be one of those times when you change your feeling toward the situation...

Jeez Louise with all your polite pointing out whilst being completely ignorant to the reality of the given situation.

I am aware of the reality of the situation but it isn't the OP's problem, and you are trying to make it so.

I wasn't replying to you and no, I'm really not.

haddock obviously I didn't make it clear - 18 seater CAN be a coach. And regardless - even if it IS a transit the point about wear and tear stands.

Not sure if owl was aiming the comment about being ignorant to the reality of the situation was to me - but if it was:

OP lives on a PRIVATE road which is therefore maintained AT A COST TO OP and neighbours - fact

Child requires transport which is most likely door to door - fact

transit or larger sized vehicle using road on regular basis (no - not like the tesco van once or twice a week) will cause additional wear and tear - fact.

Council have options other than minibus/coach (eg taxi) - fact

Not sure how that shows ignorance.

Out of interest owl - do you live on a private road? If not then I'd suggest you know less about it than you assume.

op - give your house to the bus company and let them chew your grass and drive up. Where are on MN and must be expected to put our selfs out for the greater need of other random people that you don't know.

But in the real world put bollards up.

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Taxi transport is very expensive. The taxi contract for my son is about £20000 a year. A council is not just going to roll over and pay that amount of money.

All it takes is for the driver to not drive like a prick. Reverse up to the drive of the DC then drive out.

Who said that taxi transport was cheap? Neither is maintaining a road!

My 12.03 post clearly states I live on a private road. I have three children who qualify for transport to school, one to a special school. Only the special school transport is door to door as its risk assessed and has to follow sen policy. The other two children are picked up from the end of the road as its safe for THEM both to do so.
I hope that clarifies things.

Wear and tear on the road is a red herring. Assuming the neighbour wants their DC picked up from the door, they have given the minibus permission to use the road. As I understand it, it is shared ownership, so they are wholly within their rights to do this. The OP cannot stop them.

Damage from turning round to the OP's grass / garden is a different matter though. If the minibus cannot get down the road without causing damage to OP's property, it is the wrong vehicle and should not be used. Whether it is a strip of grass or Roman mosaic, no permission has been given for its use.

here's a pic I hope….
not quite to scale but you'll get the gist.
Low and behold the dc came home in a taxi just now!!

I missed a pair of houses out in between dc house and my house. whoops. Can't count.

I do love a diagram. Is there a fence along the main road, OP?

no fence. we have some tall bushes along a bit of the boundary with the road, but basically the grass just runs to the kerb stones of the road. We are fairly rural, so its not a built up area.