bus using our driveway to turn around every day.

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Scene - basically, we live on a main road, with a private dead end service road for us to get to our houses and parking spaces. There are 8 houses along our little row. We have a drive outside our house, then the service lane, then another parking space, then a small strip of grass (ours) then the main road.

I have noticed that a small bus (18 seater maybe??) has started collecting a dc from our row of houses, and is using our parking space and grass to turn around each morning and afternoon. The alternative would be to reverse back down the lane and turn around at the entrance.

For some reason this really annoys me that the bus driver does this twice a day. We now have tyre marks on the grass, and I think it will add to the break up of the road surface.
DH is not bothered, saying he has to turn around somewhere, but it annoys me. AIBU?

Yanbu at all.

This is terrible. Does the driver not know how endangered grass is these days? He should lose his job.

Doreen that's hardly helpful

Nail strips FTW

Benedikte2 Tue 06-Sep-16 12:46:46

BTW OP when the time comes for the private access road to be resurfaced I think it would be legitimate for the residents to ask the LA to make a contribution towards the costs. You are more likely to be successful if you inform the LA at this point that their transport contractor is regularly using your private access road and consequently causing additional wear and tear!

Now that's worth doing. Especially as I googled and found that approx costs for tarmac road resurfacing appear to be about £15 to £20 per square metre. Not cheap.

That would annoy me. Have a word with the driver and tell him what you told us. He'll probably be fine about it!

I was rather on the side of thinking you were B slightly U, until you mentioned that the bus can't turn in the neighbours drive because they have several cars parked in it. I think the family have some responsibility to ensure that their child can be picked up and driven off safely, without the need for driving over a neighbours property. They could move some of the cars, surely? Can they park them further down the road or in the next street? Generally the LA will state that it's the parent's responsibility to ensure that their child gets to and from the transport safely, and I would think that this can also include not impeding access to the property where at all possible.

Doreen that's hardly helpful

It's a tiny bit of grass! It's not as if they are driving across a highly manicured lawn in a landrover doing handbrake turns.

It's not just the grass, it's also a driveway that is not built to support bus weight on a regular basis.

And I bet the small bit of grass will become a much larger bit soon.

I expect the local authority will point out that they are using the private access road to pick up a child who lives on that road, not for fun jaunts.

The point is, Doreen, it's the op's bloody tiny bit of grass. Why should she have her property damaged because the child's family cba to move their cars? Have you decided if you're going to use boulders, OP?

I'm not sure why you're being quite so determined to ignore the very reasonable point that the road IS NOT DESIGNED for regular coach use haddock. I am however quite sure that if you personally were responsible for contributing to the upkeep of a private road you'd be seeing things from a different point of view. I don't for one moment object to special transport arrangements being put in place for children with SN - but they have to be appropriate and I don't think that the situation as described by the OP is appropriate; if this was taking place on the private road which I contribute to then I would be asking for alternative arrangements to be made - whether that was taxi or a contribution to resurfacing.

But if the private road is not designed to take large vehicles twice a day, then the council needs to find an alternative. I'm sure they could reinstate the taxi. Obviously it would cost the council more but that isn't the OP or her neighbours' problem. It's the council's. If one of the children that they have a legal mandate to transport to school needs to travel in a particular type of vehicle for whatever reason, then surely the council have to provide it?

Have you rang transport services yet OP?

In the time it's taken this thread to run I've increased the size of my lane fivefold, cured my daughter's disability and created world peAce.pick up the phone, write a conclusion and then all the ignorant goady fuckers that appear unable to read can climb back under their rocks.

Fleet transport is a minibus, not an articulated lorry. They are the same size as a transit van.

owllady - I think the size probably varies, I'd be surprised if they are all the same, a child near me is picked up by what I'd call a mini bus and it's quite a lot longer than a transit van, at least twice as long I'd say.

Luckily the driver is able to turn round in an adjoining street so doesn't drive on anyone's property.

Isn't the obvious solution go contact the school transport department and ask them to remind the driver to stay on the road?

Margotsdevil - I am pointing out that you could ask all you want but you wouldn't get anywhere.

waiting for the diagram now

It's an 18 seater mini bus not a coach. It's also a school transport so not coming at the weekends or during school holidays. It has regular normal road tyres, not caterpillar tracks. It's turning around, not doing stunts and wheelies. Definitely ask for it not to go on the grass, or put rocks out, but for goodness sake how much wear and tear is it really doing? By all means make a big to do about it, stare and tut at the driver until you get his back up, have a row with the council, start a feud with the neighbours - all better than having someone touch your tarmac with their wheels.

An 18 seater is a standard minibus.

So the point we are at now is the wear and tear of the shared private drive/road trumps that of the welfare of a vulnerable child who lives in your community safely getting on and off his special school minibus every morning?

No it's not Francis. Transport services/fleet transport will carry picking the boy up from outside his house as that is what they are insured and contracted to do.

The driver will be advised not to turn in the OP drive or on her lawn. The family who apparently have an excessive amount of vehicles won't be told about it unless the OP goes round and tells them.

All the OP wants is for the bad-mannered diver not to drive on or over her property. This is a perfectly reasonable request.

Well she can't have both MoreCoffee , either the child's needs are met or there is wear and tear.
Op needs to decide what is more important.