Booked holiday apt but visitors can't use the pool

[dollylucy]

Booked apt with pool
Paid in full

Now I receive extra details from the owner and only the people staying at the apt can use the pool.
I booked it so my brother and his family can visit and use the pool.
Is the owner being unreasonable or am I ?

Maybe email the owner and say there will now be 4 of you in the 4 bed apartment. Presumably this won't affect the price. Then 4 out of 6 of your party will be entitled to use the facilities.

Here, Dame, let me make it clearer for you.

1. People said the OP was being ridiculous even contemplating, before she was told otherwise by the owner, that she might be allowed to have guests at the pool.

1. I said that I have lived somewhere where, should the OP have rented out my apartment, she would be allowed to have guests at the pool.

My point is that OP's original assumption was therefore not completely unreasonable.

How the hell you get a moot point out of that, I don't know. (It would be moot if I was saying the OP should be allowed to have guests, given that we now know she's not, but I wasn't).

bloody hell.

Have to agree with op here. We own an apartment in a complex in Spain and there are no rules about inviting guests. The community rules simply state that you use common sense with regard to use of sun loungers when it's very busy and are thoughtful of others. Plenty of people, owners and visitors, bring friends in and it's no problem. As long as no one takes the piss, everyone is happy. We're a community of 100 owners so potentially could get out of hand, but we're all adults and respect the rules and each other's space and privacy. I don't think it was cheeky to have expected to let your brother and family come use the pool a couple of times at all.

Oh dear, you really don't understand, do you. Never mind koala.

I think leaving the thread is the best thing. Some pretty shameful bullying going on on this thread imvho.

No, I really don't think you do, Dame, or you wouldn't have to resort to that! 😂

I'm tired with explaining the term 'moot point' to you when I've clearly explained it twice.

You are tiresome.

Op I don't think you were being entitled or grabby and your assumption wasn't unreasonable. I hope you have a lovely holiday and forget about this thread.

Deathstare, I can't really argue with you without sounding argumentative can I?!

But why would you want to argue with everyone? You asked whether you were being unreasonable and got told that yes you are. Don't argue. Just suck it up. Or, if you are convinced you are right, don't ask in the first place.

And even now you are still arguing and being sarky when people point out that you come across as argumentative.

Bad tempered? It's very frustrating when you think no-one understands your point of view, and you're not getting your point across

It's not that people don't understand your point of view. We all understand your point of view and have done since the first post. We just don't agree with it. And yes, I think several of us probably think you are coming across as entitled and rather nasty.

Though I suspect you will argue with that and tell us we've got it wrong again.

overlooked by people imagining pool parties and granny and extended family coming to stay -for free!
Which would be a pisstake.

How is that any different to what you are suggesting with your brother and his family coming over to play around in the gardens and pool with you? Just because they are your family doesn't mean they are any less annoying to other people.

where exactly have I been a Dick?

Well if you weren't before (which is debatable) then you certainly were when you said Fuck off ExWife- that's below the belt- you have no idea In fact that sounds rather yobbish.

nd this- I completely understand about rules being there for insurance reasons and to stop overcrowding, thank you to those who pointed that out

I rent my apartment out on a long term basis and as far as I'm concerned that means I have no right to use the pool because it would be putting too much load on it, and the surrounding gardens.

You see, the people who build these complexes have all sorts of formulas for working all sorts of things out and they know they can safely build a swimming pool in a certain size to cover the usage of those in the apartment block. Plus the occasional wee bit of extra, and that's far different to people saying oh we'll just have people over to use the pool everyday cos the kids prefer it to the beach. Which is what some people would do.

Dame: that's hilarious.

I'm a lawyer. Rest assured that I know precisely what a moot point is. But thanks for 'trying' (must've missed that, mind you).

I'm sorry that you find me tiresome. How heartbreaking.

I don't understand how this thread has ended up so nasty.

I don't think it's spectacularly stupid to assume you could have a few guests, and I'd certainly think a no guests rule would be made clear before booking. I mean, hardly anywhere allows guests to smoke but there's usually No Smoking rules made clear on booking websites and I'd say that was even more obvious.

OP seems like she was trying to explain herself and her reasoning in the face of quite harsh criticism (being dense, being entitled etc) rather than argue back to tell other posters they were wrong.

Some threads seem to end up taking on a real momentum of nasty responses which are disproportionate to the original query, whilst others don't. I can never quite see why.

Oh well OP. I hope youre alright.

LOL at the family apartment that "blood, sweat and tears paid for"! And this means your brother should get to use the swimming pool that he hasn't paid to use. Ha ha ha ha ha!

I think it's pretty obvious that you should email the owner, explain the situation, ASK if she minds, and if she doesn't allow it, then that's that.

Make it clear that because you want to abide by the rules and look after the apartment during your stay, you didn't want to assume it was okay and just plough on ahead regardless. If she's a decent landlord, she'll appreciate the courtesy, even if she doesn't agree to your DB using the pool.

If she's been burned by holiday tenants before, I completely understand her cautious attitude, even if the rest of them have stayed there problem free.

Blimey bibbity. Bit much, no?

OP don't cry. I don't think you are being unreasonable at all! I totally agree with everything Koala has said. People that own/ permanently rent the apartment are obviously 'allowed' to have friends over occasionally to use the pool, so why shouldn't short term holiday renters?
Yes if they are there all the time, it would be a pisstake, but a blanket ban on guests is a bit harsh IMO.

The 'insurance' reason often comes up on mn too. Think people are being really nasty on here.

Not really. It's very manipulative to try and make people feel sorry for you when you want to win an argument.

Op isn't the only one getting fed up with people "not listening" on this thread.

That was my exact point, plimsolls.

The OP has been told she's very cheeky, had no common sense, that 'no one can be this dense', and that she and her family are freeloaders and pisstakers.

It's all so fucking unnecessarily nasty.

Why is everyone being so mean to each other? The OP asked a simple question, can't we all give our opinion without being nasty?

Quite koala

It also feels like she is being goaded into explaining herself (the existence of the other apartment, for example) and then ridiculed for explaining herself.

Bang on Plimsolls. Happens fairly regularly in AIBU. Really poisonous place to be at times.

Goodness me. No idea why people are being so aggressive and rude to you OP. Some of these comments are very OTT and completely uncalled for.

I hope you have a good holiday OP.

PS I would have thought it would have been fine for guests to use the pool too

OK Haven't quite rtft so I may have missed this BUT when booking did you rent the apartment as a whole - as in it didn't matter how many of you there are t was a fixed price? Or was it reduced as there is only you and your daughter in there?

If it was a fixed price could you not just add the childrens and your brother name? Or if reduced price offer to pay more for use of the pool as you are under occupied?

Have you spoken to the owner explained the situation and advised that it would be for x amount of days and see if there was any movement due to under occupancy?

TBH I can't understand why you thought it would be OK for visitors to use the pool but never mind, you did.

Now you have found out that this is not possible, so no dramas you have two options.

One either try and cancel the booking and book somewhere else where this is possible, which would probably need to be a villa as a lot of apartment complexes have this rule.

I just remembered that you said there were no villas available so really that gives you option two which is to just accept it, annoying yes but at least you know for next time.

What I wouldn't do is to ignore the owner's information and allow visitors in anyway as personally I think that is out of order.

A lot of apartment complexes have really secure pool areas now where you need key cards to access the area and I think that is because not only have they had issues with visitors gaining entry but also locals.

Wow some posters are taking this quite seriously and being really harsh with the OP.
I have been on holidays in places like this and from what I remember it was OK to have a couple of guests on occasions, as long as it was not every day and just a small number of guests.
If OP's place could house 4, then I don't see how it would be an issue for 4 people to use the pool, and even 5-6 people a couple of times.