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To think FFS re sad faced breast feeding mums in the Daily Fail?

406 replies

Chihuahualala · 12/08/2016 23:13

Single-mother, 33, thrown out of West End show for breast feeding

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Fuck off ... And fuck off some more! Ear defenders or not this WAS NOT the place for your offspring! Aggggh!!!

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motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:11

I understand from the comments that people are paying through the nose to hear swearing and yet they object to whatever sounds a baby might make.

Oh wow what a clever comparison...

mathanxiety · 13/08/2016 08:13

I am rather proud of it.

A lot of people could save their money and hear all that swearing at home for free.

Seriously, this show ain't Shakespeare. People need to get over themselves.

motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:14

Oh the snobbery! If they want to pay to hear some swearing that's their decision, none of anyone's business what people find entertaining. Those other patrons did not pay to hear a baby cry.

Cosmo111 · 13/08/2016 08:15

I disagreed on the cinema thread that babies should be allowed in when people pay good money the same for a theatre especially as it is considerably more. There's a time an a place, the lady is trying to use breastfeeding to gain a quick buck I believe it was making a noise but utilmately the theatre should have a policy of no children under a certain age, I speak as a mother of three DC one of which is 4months who is breastfed.

NeonPinkNails · 13/08/2016 08:15

No grown ups are able make sensible informed decisions and if they choose to pay to see a show with swearing (and fantastic music, brilliant talented performers etc) then that's different to being distracted by something - whatever that is - which they didn't choose to hear.

Grown ups who think having a child gives them the right to behave how they like without considering anyone else are weird.

motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:16

Oh and shakespeare plays contain swearing by the way.

NerrSnerr · 13/08/2016 08:18

It isn't about breastfeeding at all, it's about the baby disturbing others.

Math maybe people are different and enjoy different shows and experiences? Or should everyone only enjoy things that you do? Life would be dull if everyone liked the same things.

mollie123 · 13/08/2016 08:19

math so an erroneous (to you) ' gets you on your high horse - sorry for my error - it was also there in 'responsibility' but you didn't look in full at the point I was making either so |I am not surprised.

honknghaddock · 13/08/2016 08:20

Deathstare- Those people you list as distracting are there to watch the performance. A baby isn't.

user7755 · 13/08/2016 08:22

Math - do you understand that this show is very highly rated, that the people who pay to watch it do so because they enjoy the (frankly excellent) music of Green Day. It's a musical with Punk music and everything that entails. If they'd wanted to listen to baby noises they could go to soft play.

It might not be Shakespeare but that's the whole point for people who go to it - they go to listen to Green Day music.

GinIsIn · 13/08/2016 08:23

mathanxiety - how lucky we plebs are that you are here to enlighten us with your highbrow cultural ways.... Hmm

You do know that not only is there plenty of swearing in Shakespeare's plays, he even invented some of the swear words you find in common usage....

Whether people pay to see the Green Day Musical or Coriolanus at the RSC, they've shelled out a considerable amount of money for the experience and this woman's entitled and frankly batshit attitude shouldn't trump that.

mollie123 · 13/08/2016 08:24

if it is only about certain people's rights (with or without quote marks) without them bearing any responsibility for other people in society then they are a very selfish, entitled bunch of people.
This is the problem with giving a certain sub-set of society a right without educating them about the responsibility they owe to others and wider society who have ensured that right is given to them.

MissClarke86 · 13/08/2016 08:26

Green Day lyrics also have a fair bit of inappropriate language in them. I know she's only 10 months and wouldn't understand it, but it would surely be highly inappropriate for a 5-6 year old therefore a baby also should not be there.

mathanxiety · 13/08/2016 08:29

They clearly don't appreciate the irony of paying hundreds of pounds to sit in a theatre swanky enough to have management that can spell in order to enjoy the Green Day experience.

And it clearly never occurred to any of the whiners that a loud baby in an audience probably embodied the spirit of punk to a far greater extent than this production did.

Crispsheets · 13/08/2016 08:30

What a ridiculous comment mathanxiety
I've just shelled out £160 for 2 tickets to a West End show with lots of swearing, and god forbid, music. I'd be pissed off if there was a baby in ear defenders being bounced around in my peripheral vision.
The woman is attention seeking.

PeggyMitchell123 · 13/08/2016 08:34

I read this article last night. It's just daft. She was not even asked to leave because of breastfeeding, she was asked to leave because her baby was distracting and complaints came from 3 different people. The theatre did nothing wrong imo.

mathanxiety · 13/08/2016 08:35

LOL at not taking a baby along because of the swearing. 5-6 year olds can understand language and repeat it. Babies, not so much.

Fenella - What is punk if not 'frankly a bit batshit'? Or even 'entitled'.

fruitboxjury · 13/08/2016 08:36

I wonder if the Daily Fail will print the consensus here as a follow up?

motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:38

Mananxiety taking pomposity to new levels there.

motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:41

The Shakespeare comparison is still making me lol, it's so cliche, and shows no understanding of what Shakespeare actually is (populist, rude, sweary) you must really have your finger on the cultural pulse mananxiety.

davos · 13/08/2016 08:44

She was asked to leave because of breastfeeding - which is illegal

no she wasn't.

She was told she could go in as longs as she removed the baby if it became distracting. She chose not to do that.

3 separate complaints were made. Non about breastfeeding. All about the child screaming.

BoffinMum · 13/08/2016 08:46

Children happen to be human beings like everyone else, and should be accorded the same rights. It's like when mad people start moaning about children on planes and saying there should be child-free flights. Buy your own jet if you don't like public transport, I say. And if the baby had a ticket for the show and there was no rule about age thresholds, then it should have been nobody else's business. Put on your own show at home if you want to pick and choose the audience, I say.

Although I admit it is a bit odd taking a baby to something like this TBH. And I agree about the sad face in the DM issue.

motherducker · 13/08/2016 08:47

I doubt anyone in the theatre even noticed her breastfeeding, someone in the theatre I used to work in did a shit under one of the seats, we only found out when clearing up after the show.

mathanxiety · 13/08/2016 08:49

Mollie - here's where you're going really wrong about rights and responsibilities and breastfeeding:

The people who do the feeding are the babies. The babies are messy, noisy, and occasionally smelly.
The people with the breasts are the mothers. Breasts have been for a few hundred years associated primarily with sex and the feeding function has been overlooked.

In order to exercise the right to breastfeed in public, it is necessary to (1) bring the baby with you, and (2) use the breasts, possibly exposing them.

So the law recognises that even though the babies can be loud, messy, not your usual patron of a theatre or a cinema or a restaurant or a church, etc., you can't breastfeed without them being present. Same goes for the breasts. The law recognises that a woman has the right to go to those establishments and to take her breastfeeding baby with her and to feed her baby in those places, and it says nothing about getting babysitters, or staying home to avoid annoying other people.

In fact, other people have to suck up (pardon me) the fact that babies and breasts are vital components of the activity, and that they will be present and most likely audible and on view in order for the breastfeeding to proceed.

The suggestion that women should be grateful to the general public for allowing them to feed their babies as nature intended outside of their own homes, and therefore should pander to the general public's immaturity and ignorance is appalling.

The hope of the legislation is that the public will become more relaxed about the presence of babies left, right and centre, and more willing to accept the feeding function of breasts, and that breastfeeding rates will therefore increase, with breastfeeding lasting all the way to the one year mark.

Clearly, there is a long way to go where eradication of ignorance and prejudice about breastfeeding and the necessary presence of babies are concerned.

davos · 13/08/2016 08:51

Children happen to be human beings like everyone else, and should be accorded the same rights.

in this case the child was.

An adult who was making noise and ruining the show for other people, causing complaints, Would be asked to leave.

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