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To think FFS re sad faced breast feeding mums in the Daily Fail?

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Chihuahualala · 12/08/2016 23:13

Single-mother, 33, thrown out of West End show for breast feeding

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Fuck off ... And fuck off some more! Ear defenders or not this WAS NOT the place for your offspring! Aggggh!!!

OP posts:
Bahhhhhumbug · 03/09/2016 01:20

Well apparently QueenLiz even though no one was sat near enough this lady to be disturbed and it was dark people managed to 'sense' she was breastfeeding such is their heightened awareness due to extreme prejudice against women breastfeeding. It was nothing to do with the baby crying/screaming as that would be much less likely to draw attention to the baby in the dark, right? Confused

kali110 · 03/09/2016 01:37

bah when you have no valid argument you have to resort to personal insults

bah clearly it was the bf!

This mother knew her baby well enough to know it would not cry, ever.

QueenLizIII · 03/09/2016 01:48

Well apparently QueenLiz even though no one was sat near enough this lady to be disturbed and it was dark people managed to 'sense' she was breastfeeding such is their heightened awareness due to extreme prejudice against women breastfeeding. It was nothing to do with the baby crying/screaming as that would be much less likely to draw attention to the baby in the dark, right?

Not quite sure what you mean Bahhumbug

But it seems clear from the story that her darling was bopping along to the music...in other words making a nuisance of herself and being noisy as babies do. Which is why west end theatres are no places for babies as they cant stay silent for them.

Then she started breast feeding her.

From the timeline she gave, people probably complained about the noisy baby, that is why she was asked to leave. Between the complaint being made about noise and being asked to leave, she had begun to breast feed. But she chose to plaster herself across the papers about being asked to leave for breast feeding. It wasnt about that.

mathanxiety · 03/09/2016 02:41

Littleprincesssara, what do you understand the meaning of the word fanfiction (fanfic) to be?
I am seeing it quite a bit in your posts, and I am genuinely curious.

'How is that relevant? The mother states the baby was awake throughout.'
The mother was ejected within ten minutes of the start of the show, so 'throughout' is a bit of a stretch. Unless you have some friend of a friend of a friend whose cousin's ears were assailed by 'screaming' for all five and a half hours (or whatever) of the production. Or the show lasted ten minutes...

You do not need any experience of Guinea pigs - you just need a little general knowledge and the ability to think logically.
Guinea pig anatomy comes under the heading of obscure and irrelevant trivia, Francis.

It's probably a good idea for you not to comment on the sleeping habits of babies who are not expected to conform to the old fashioned Best British Practice of being banished to their bedrooms at 6 o'clock. You are clearly having a hard time accepting that millions of other people outside of your limited experience and knowledge do things very successfully their own way.

mathanxiety · 03/09/2016 02:44

Bopping is bouncing. If you're on your feet it means dancing.

Not being noisy. Just moving to the music.

Which is apparently verboten, in a musical.

Hmm
littleprincesssara · 03/09/2016 07:40

Fanfiction means inventing something out of thin air entirely wholecloth that has zero basis in reality, and arguing against that purely fictional situation, rather than engaging with the actual situation.

elodie2000 · 03/09/2016 07:58

math: It's good the theatre have confirmed that they explicitly allow breastfeeding everywhere, including inside the auditorium. What is your take on this Elodie?
The law states that mothers are allowed to BF pretty much anywhere so the theatre has made a statement to that effect.
However, I imagine it will also ensure that babes in arms and young children are not admitted to events rated 14 + which actually cancels out any right to BF in the audortorium during a 14+ related show...

elodie2000 · 03/09/2016 07:59

rated show not related

FrancisCrawford · 03/09/2016 08:54

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/09/2016 10:30

Bopping means dancing.

This thread really is the thread that just keeps giving.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/09/2016 10:34

Gosh, last I heard, theatre goers were allowed to move around, scratch an ear, rub a tired eye, adjust a stray hair, cross, uncross, re-cross a leg, shift their butts around in their seats to prevent numb-butt, etc.

Have I been doing theatre wrong all this time?

I am truly mortified at the thought that moving around could have disturbed other patrons.

Somebody should have complained. I should have been ejected.

What a load of nonsense. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Have you ever been crying loudly in a theatre because you were hungry?

elodie2000 · 03/09/2016 10:55

Or sat next to someone and their hacking cough? Oh that was joyful let me tell you!!

kali110 · 03/09/2016 11:32

If a baby cried for 10 minutes i'd have complained.. I wouldn't have let it go on for the whole of the musical, or waited for the mother to settle it down.

Guinea pigs are obscure Grin

multivac · 03/09/2016 11:33

"Fanfiction means inventing something out of thin air entirely"

Erm, no. That's 'fiction'. 'Fanfiction' is when people produce creative writing based on and using characters and settings of novels/TV series/movies etc that they admire.

Then you have Slashfic, which takes it to another level altogether...

FearofFlight · 03/09/2016 12:30

I had tickets to the theatre to see Jude Law. JUDE LAW!!

I did not go, because I was ill. And coughing. And likely to be a distraction to the many other people who had paid money to see Jude Law, and listen to the words he spoke (it was Shakespeare, but I would have done the same if it had been a punk musical, not quite punk musical or any other event where the audience had an expectation of being able to hear).

Likewise, I would not have taken my small child (who as it happens, was bottle fed not that it makes any difference either way), who, despite being quiet 99% of the time, still may choose to cry if she is upset thus distracting other people who wanted to hear the dialogue.

To refer to math's earlier point - no you might not hear a baby over American Idiot, but you may well hear them over Wake Me Up When September Ends or the dialogue, which, regardless of quality, was holding the songs together to form a story.

littleprincesssara · 03/09/2016 12:50

Fanfiction is commonly used 'net slang, to imply someone's talking tosh basically.

FrancisCrawford · 03/09/2016 14:54

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FearofFlight · 03/09/2016 17:55

Oooh... the musical is called American Idiot?

I have not slept enough recently. I thought it was the opening number, with the person being asked to leave in the first 10 mins...

Oh well.

multivac · 03/09/2016 20:14

...by people who don't know what 'fanfiction' is, perhaps, littleprincess. And who struggle with the definition of 'fiction'.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanfiction

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction

www.dictionary.com/browse/fanfic

multivac · 03/09/2016 20:17

It doesn't make any sense at all used to mean 'tosh'.

littleprincesssara · 03/09/2016 21:46

I know what fanfiction is, I've been writing it since I was in middle school (in the late 90s) and later co-ran a popular HP fanfiction site.

It's just Internet slang, plenty of slang words have different "proper" meanings. It's probably a generational thing.

multivac · 03/09/2016 22:23

Ah, ok. So you think fanfic as a genre, including what you wrote, presumably = tosh. Fair enough; you're certainly not alone in that.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2016 08:49

Littleprincesssara, thanks for your take on fanfiction.
There was me thinking it was 'fiction written by a fan of, and featuring characters from, a particular TV series, movie, etc'..

In similar vein:
'bop1
'bäp/
informal
verb
gerund or present participle: bopping

dance to pop music.
"bopping to the radio while they made breakfast"
synonyms:	dance;

More -
boogie, jive, groove, disco, rock, stomp;
get down, hoof it, cut a/the rug
"bopping to the old tunes"
move or travel energetically.'

So yeah, moving to the music. Just as I said.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2016 08:56

To refer to math's earlier point - no you might not hear a baby over American Idiot, but you may well hear them over Wake Me Up When September Ends or the dialogue, which, regardless of quality, was holding the songs together to form a story.

The point is that the opening number was American Idiot, and it was performed within the first minutes, and no, I do not know how anyone could have heard a baby over that. So it's very likely that a baby making noise was not the issue.

Nobody got the chance to test the baby's lungs in a showdown with 'Wake Me Up..' The mother and baby had left by then.

*Littleprincesssara, it's strange that my DCs, who are no strangers to the internet, or to slang, and who were students in school in the 90s and 00s, have ever come across your usage.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2016 08:58

Have you ever been crying loudly in a theatre because you were hungry?

Was this baby doing that?

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