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To think FFS re sad faced breast feeding mums in the Daily Fail?

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Chihuahualala · 12/08/2016 23:13

Single-mother, 33, thrown out of West End show for breast feeding

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Fuck off ... And fuck off some more! Ear defenders or not this WAS NOT the place for your offspring! Aggggh!!!

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Bahhhhhumbug · 01/09/2016 14:23

I have no issues about you or breastfeeding or not or taking children to the doctors /hospitals etc or not. This thread is about a woman who took a young baby/toddler to an evening show for adults in the West End , which the vast majority of people on here think was inadvisable at best and selfish /entitled at worst.

Part of your argument against it being inadvisable/selfish/entitled was that young DCs often have to be taken to equally noisy /hot/crowded places such as the doctors.
I have said I don't think that is a valid comparison as it is a necessary visit whilst a visit to an adult West End play is certainly not.
So you then went into great detail again as to how you don't have to take your other DCs when one is ill etc or it is your appt. I was merely pointing out you had moved the goalposts somewhat because in two previous posts you have described these visits as 'having' to take them and 'those that aren't at school' had to be taken.
But regardless I still feel that a comparison between the two very different situations does not make sense.
I think I can safely say that I might well complain if I had paid to go to an adult West End show and someone distracted me /spoilt my enjoyment by bringing a babe in arms or young toddler that was then crying or screaming.

I can also safely say that I would never dream of complaining about a screaming /crying /baby or toddler in a doctor's surgery as their presence is to be expected as is their crying as very possibly unwell and even if it's their mother /sibling that is is attending.an appointment usually they have no choice but to bring DCs too. I would have every sympathy for the mother and the baby in that situation.

In the theatre situation however I would only have sympathy for the baby and very little for the mother I'm afraid as she has consciously brought her baby into an adult show and risked spoiling the enjoyment of myself and other theatre goers.
I am equally bemused that you are claiming not to understand that. .

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 15:40

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kali110 · 01/09/2016 17:49

Lol carry on then math yes gp visits definetely compare to west end performances.
Maybe i can try that with work Grin

kali110 · 01/09/2016 17:51

francis no i reckon it's lucas Grin

Bahhhhhumbug · 01/09/2016 19:15

kall110 lol at trying that at work. Who's Lucas ? pleeeeeease don't make me read the whole thread again or DH may throw me out of the house for screaming Grin

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mathanxiety · 01/09/2016 19:23

Bah -

Yes indeed.
I also pointed out that the majority of the world's babies and small children live in places that are hot and noisy.

I seriously suggest you take reading lessons, Bah.
Follow up with comprehension practice.

It is always best to read the words that are actually written, and not to make up bits.

So you then went into great detail again as to how you don't have to take your other DCs when one is ill etc or it is your appt. I was merely pointing out you had moved the goalposts somewhat because in two previous posts you have described these visits as 'having' to take them and 'those that aren't at school' had to be taken.

One is sick and must go to the doctor's office. But there is no family living close by and it's too much to ask a neighbour to take care of that many extra children. So the four others therefore have to be taken with me and the patient. The four others do not have to visit the doctor. They have to accompany their sibling to the doctor's office all the same, because they cannot be left at home alone. Actually, they accompany me and their sick sibling into the examining room, because they can't be left unsupervised in the waiting room...

Got that?

mathanxiety · 01/09/2016 19:28

Francis - are you trying to suggest the baby would have pulled the ear defenders off while she slept?

As I said, I have five DCs, one of whom was pretty highly strung, but the rest could be taken anywhere.

I live in a place where people take babies places in the evening as well as during the day. They tend to sleep when their usual time to sleep rolls around, regardless of what is going on around them. A few of mine have slept through fireworks.

If you haven't taken a baby out much in the evening, then I suppose your ignorance can be excused.

ForalltheSaints · 01/09/2016 19:32

I would have thought given some of the language in Green Day songs there would have been a minimum age to go in to see the musical. I also think that Green Day probably would have as low an opinion of the paper that supported the Blackshirts as i do, if they are aware of it.

I support mothers being able to breastfeed in public, but do not think that babies or any young children should be going to a show with the F word in it.

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 19:40

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mathanxiety · 01/09/2016 20:05

I don't have a theory that the baby slept right through Confused.

Would you like to join Bah in her reading class?

And if the baby was pulling the ear defenders off, then it was moving around and that could have been disturbing to other theatre patrons.

Gosh, last I heard, theatre goers were allowed to move around, scratch an ear, rub a tired eye, adjust a stray hair, cross, uncross, re-cross a leg, shift their butts around in their seats to prevent numb-butt, etc.

Have I been doing theatre wrong all this time?

I am truly mortified at the thought that moving around could have disturbed other patrons.

Somebody should have complained. I should have been ejected.

mathanxiety · 01/09/2016 20:07

I'm going to have to take your word about the guinea pigs as I have no personal experience of them.

You should take mine about sleeping babies.

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 21:59

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mathanxiety · 02/09/2016 05:10

As I said, I have no experience of guinea pigs, so therefore no experience of their tails or lack of them either.
I am going to have to take your word as truth in the case of all your remarks about guinea pigs.

Otoh, if you have no experience of bringing babies and small children places in the evening and have not witnessed them falling asleep at more or less their normal bedtime despite fireworks, the 1812 Overture, loud crowds cheering for hockey or baseball teams, to name just a few noisy events, then you should consider taking my word for it that it happens.

littleprincesssara · 02/09/2016 08:01

How is that relevant? The mother states the baby was awake throughout.

Why are you inventing fanfic that has zero to do with the actual situation again?

FrancisCrawford · 02/09/2016 08:31

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kali110 · 02/09/2016 12:07

Bahhhhhumbug the mothers name is lucas, sorry!

francis why are you trying to bring logic into this?
When math has already compared taking a baby to a theatre production to taking kids to the doctors Grin
I'd tell math to read the article/s but she isn't grasping it anyway Confused

FrancisCrawford · 02/09/2016 12:26

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kali110 · 02/09/2016 14:57

Brilliant Grin

Bahhhhhumbug · 02/09/2016 23:33

Math

You said:

People take their babies to places that are loud and hot all the time. Most of the world's babies live in loud, hot places.My doctor's waiting room used to be heaving...............etc etc.

Several other posters and myself thought this wasn't a valid comparison because on a trip to the doctors it is essential to bring your baby and on a trip to the theatre it is not.

So then you pointed out that your visits to the doctors were not essential for four out of your five children, only for the child with the appt. in order to support your argument that both can be seen as non essential.

But you then went on to detail that in fact you had to take the other DCs with you for various reasons. So it was in fact essential for them to be there.

Which invalidates your original argument that both are non essential and therefore comparable.

Bahhhhhumbug · 03/09/2016 00:51

Francis Grin ( brilliant ) and Kali and Little princess there may be light at the end of the tunnel....... Math is now resorting to personal insults.

QueenLizIII · 03/09/2016 00:53

She lost me at the multiple references to a 10mth old baby "bopping" along to the show and also pulling her ear defenders off.

I think the bopping along, in other words being noisy, is what gave rise to the complaints because in a dark theatre no one would have seen her breastfeeding or even known.

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