Is life harder for unattractive people?

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I know life can be hard for lots of reasons, and that discrimination can take many forms more serious than this, but putting all other factors aside just for now, is day to day life that little bit harder for less attractive people? For example, are people less likely to be accepting of someone behaving assertively, either at work or elsewhere, if the person in question isn't easy on the eye? (I'm not much to look at myself if that makes any difference). What about things like job interviews or social situations, meeting new people?

I haven't missed the point! The point is, that in that case, what was written in a paper was abstract. Headline. These people we don't want to feed are ugly. Let us tell you how, in the absence of pictures.

The reality was that if the reader had seen a poor Irish person next to a poor English person they couldn't have told the difference.
Hang on, unless you mean that that is genuinely a list of Irish facial features?

A newspaper campaign from 150 years ago is not making some valid point on a thread about whether or not un attractive people going about their business get fewer breaks. When you walk towards a door that's swinging shut on you, it makes no difference what your accent is. It's facial symmetry, hair, healthy, slimness etc that will get the door held open a moment longer.

Wow, fascinating that Chimps are compelled to do it too.

Ah yes garlic YOu are right. I did skim past part of your post. That it is OK to be horrible to people if they're ugly............. now let's tell you how ugly they are. Apologies. I did not see that bit.

Agree what is considered beautiful changes over time.For example, in C19, being pale and plump was v attractive as it denoted wealth and not having to work outside in the fields. Now being overweight means you are more likely to be poor as we have sedentary jobs and healthy food is more expensive than cheap food from Iceland ( for example ). And a tan is still v highly prized despite pp knowing the dangers. And it may all change again in the future!

I'm not ugly; i just live in the wrong century!!

I have a gorgeous baby - haha not even a stealth brag there, sorry. But everyone constantly tells me. Big blue eyes, blonde hair... i'm glad really he's a boy and in all liklihood the comments will wain with time. I want hm to be valued for more than that. My friend has a gorgeous girl and i susoect she'll spend her whole life with people trying to define her by it.

I was always the clever one growing up, my sister was the pretty one so i mostly feel inpervious to comments about my looks , don't wear makeup etc. Looking back i guess i did have a pretty teenage faze but i never saw it. I think for those who pretty let alone beautiful doesn't come naturally, we find some other box to fit in i.e. pretty. It's all just want to fit in and find out tribe.

Out of interest, the poster socially experimenting on her children - if DC1 had to point put someone he liked like that, does he still default have a type abd if so os that physical or personality?

my supposed attractiveness came as a bit of a shock to me as i'd had no attention for it (no attention full stop really) from family and at primary school i can remember assuming i was ugly because i wasn't a tiny pale dainty ballerina with long blond straight hair. for me suddenly receiving a lot of attention for my looks was really quite disorientating as the attention prior to that had been for being clever, for writing great stories, for winning at high jump etc. in contrast at secondary they always seemed shocked that i achieved things academically and i was treated as a naughty kid even before i finally did become rebellious and fuck you ish because i was getting treated badly there and at home and felt some survival like need to start fighting back.

i dont' think i ever 'felt' attractive until much later in life when i could accept a sort of objective reflection of my attractiveness in comparison to type thing. so realistically i can't talk about what impact it has upon confidence and how warmly/easily you interact with others.

long post to say i agree with those saying it's about how you are made to perceive yourself as a child that is the key - i fitted the ugly duckling and imposter syndromes very well - objective reality meant less than how i'd been made to feel about myself young. accepting positives about myself was hard work and didn't come naturally at all except for those qualities that had been confirmed to me as a child at primary school re: i can learn easily, i'm relatively clever.

i still think the biggest advantage people can have had in life is to have been really loved and supported and accepted as a child. that basic fundamental security and sense of the world as essentially a kind and loving place that accepts you is worth so much from what i can see.

Thanks, i8 and Tent :) YY to chimpanzee revelations!

the biggest advantage people can have had in life is to have been really loved and supported and accepted as a child ... basic fundamental security

Couldn't agree more.

I think they do. Only because if you think you are more attractive you feel more confident. Confidence is the key to getting on and getting where u want to be.

I came here after searching feminism forums. I read an article about how many small penis jokes are made by feminists and how wrong that is. While I am considered attractive, tall, broad chest etc, i am very under-endowed and I guess that could count as unattractive.

Hell yeah

If I look at my work we have made 50% redundant - the more attractive young ones have found jobs

It's really upsetting actually -

I think those who are considered unattractive do have a harder time. I'd say I'm average, but scrub up well and make the most of what I've got.
My daughter, on the other hand, is in a different league. I'm not just a biased mum, when she hit puberty she turned male heads. I've seen how things are different for her, mainly in how people react to her. She gets a lot of male attention and has also had to deal with blatant jealousy from other girls. She is refreshingly without vanity though, and in many ways seems oblivious to her good looks.