To ask if you're NOT vaccinating against Meningitis B what are your reasons?

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Non judgey.

Ours is simply cost - we have twins and can't afford it .

Simply can't afford it.

GP advised not to have any injectable vaccines during early childhood due to increased risk of encephalitis as a side effect of vaccination in children with family history of febrile convulsions. So we didn't have any. My ten year old has had no vaccines. My next one won't have them either. The risks outweigh the benefits for my family

Your GP is an idiot. A parent having febrile convulsions (which are common) is not a reason not to vaccinate. A child having febrile convulsions is not a reason not to vaccinate. A child who has febrile convulsions and then diagnosed epilepsy, is STILL not a reason not to vaccinate.
Vaccinate your next child, at least!

...so of course the % of those who contracted meningitis from someone else will be lower than in a population where no one is vaccinated.

Facepalming, the number of overall cases might be reduced but the percentage of those cases which were contracted from a family member or via kissing won't change.

Nobody else is at risk of contracting men b from someone who has the disease other than household members and people they have kissed. It's not easily spread to the wider community, so makes no difference to you or your children if someone else doesn't vaccinate their kids against men b, unless they live in your house. We're just discussing men b here, not vaccines in general.

that 97% stat is against all forms of meningitis.

Of course there are many strains not vaccinated against but a partially vaccinated population will keep the number of isolated cases higher than in am unvaccinated population.

the point being using these stats to justify not vaccinated means you are relying on the rest of the population vaccinating where possible.

DD has febrile convulsions, at no point whatsoever was I advised to not vaccinate her.

Obviously there are some situations where not vaccinating is understandable. There are a very small number of children who cannot be vaccinated for various reasons. And if you have had a child who has been harmed by a vaccine then i can totally understand not wanting to vaccinate any other children you may have.

But other than that there really no excuse. Not believing the 'science' behind them is quite simply not a good enough reason. I really do think that people living in 2016 just completely take for granted that the chance of your child (in fact several of your children) dying of disease is so vanishingly small. So different to the time before vaccines were available. I can't get my head around people who think in this way.

I also assume that thrse people drive their kids around in cars/allow then to walk on the side of the road/let them generally live a day to day life. The chances of your child being harmed doing any of these things is much higher than being harmed by a vaccine, and yet people do them all the time.

Younger ones are vaccinated by the NHS so boots won't take your money?

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The soap made in the film is clear glycerin soap - they never say it but there is mention of the place smelling of alcohol - I love that level of detail.

In the book (can't remember if it is in the film) he takes the fat from the liposuction clinic to make soap and gets a kick selling it back to the same women

No 18 month olds aren't vaccinated by the NHS. My DD is 16 months and was born about a month too early to get the NHS men b jab.

I believe that over age 2 they just require 2 jabs whereas younger ones require 2 jabs and then a booster later to be effectively covered. So it may be because of that.

Oh and to answer the question - I haven't had my 2 DDs done, mainly because they've been having loads of other jabs (standard NHS ones plus cpox) and I wanted to give them a break before any more. Also because of the shortage, though that's over now I think.

This thread is a good reminder thanks.

Yes! It's also in the film. Both brilliant.

Sashh please tell me your friend doesn't do this too.....

2-4 years ?!

So will all these children being vaccinated against Men B then need to be re vaccinated in 4 years time ?

LucyPanda if you go to the Meningitis Now website it says the MenB vaccine is for ages 2 - 21.

Dream - I don't think there are any plans for it at the moment because by that stage they won't be in the most at risk category. They may decide to introduce one in the future.

My twins are 5 so not in the at risk group .

If the vaccine only lasts 4 years maximum and there's no option for a booster (when they will still be in the low risk group) , it seems a bit fruitless ?

Am I thinking this correctly ?

Well you could pay for a booster privately as well I guess.

The JCVI position statement has a chart showing the incidence of Men B in each age group.

Looking at the JCVI report (if I'm understanding it correctly) it states that the duration of protection in babies and young children is between 18-36 months.

The duration for adolescents is ten years .

As my twins are 5 , would it therefore not make more sense to have the vaccination when they hit adolescence ?

I can't see what benefit it would have now , especially as the need for booster is not known .

I don't know if I want to take the risk (albeit low) of a vaccine that isn't going to be that beneficial at this current time .

Can anyone advise? I'm not sure what to do now !

Those who have had pre school children vaccinated - what are your plans when the vaccine wears off ?

(I'm genuinely asking a question - not being goady )

Paying for a booster

Do you mind me asking how old your DC is?

What age would you have the booster and how will we all know if it's actually ok to have the booster and its effectiveness?

Some more info about persistence of antibodies here if anyone is interested.