To ask if you're NOT vaccinating against Meningitis B what are your reasons?

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Non judgey.

Ours is simply cost - we have twins and can't afford it .

Sunshine, a school friend had tb on return from India, Chest scans and bcg's a go go round here.
NICE etc do target public vaccination programmes & decide which are cost effective for whole populations.
But at no point did anyone start making diy vaccines and "putting anything in it". Fairly certain the Boots Men B vaccine isn't made out the back either.

Boots has a reputation to keep and its all really about doing your homework especially a big decision like this. My oldest daughter had the BCG jab when she was a baby because my hv insisted my dad had TB when he was a boy. That was when I was living in South London now I am living in Oxfordshire they don't give it to teenagers. I read in the paper a teenage boy who goes to the same school as my daughter caught TB. The whole thing is wrong.

3luckystars if you want vaccine I would go to Boots they are respectable and you can sue them if anything goes wrong.

My three year old just had his first menB jab done at Boots and it went well. I think there is a waiting list so you need to register online and wait until they contact you to reserve an appointment time. Then a pharmacist does the injection at a store of your choice. £95 and you can use your advantage card. You get double points if you join their pharmacy scheme.

Benguins - as discussed up thread, the MenB vaccine isn't being given to create community/herd immunity. It's only being given to the most at risk group (under 1s) to protect them. They are still investigating whether or not it will have any impact on carriage in teenagers.

I can't believe some posters are suggesting that cmpi/cmpa and silent reflux don't exist.

My little boy had such severe reflux that he turned blue and needed oxygen to bring him back. Reflux meds (ranitidine and domperidone) were the only thing that stopped this severe response, although the vomiting was more difficult to control. Weaning made no difference to reflux and he's still needing meds 5-6 months on.

He also has cmpi/cmpa - on top of the reflux symptoms, if he took more than 50ml of milk he was writhing and crying in pain, constant diarrhoea, weight loss and eczema. Removing cow's milk products have removed/improved all these symptoms.

I challenge anyone to say that this is my imagination/just "being a baby" or other such shite.

So Bert, when your baby had silent reflux what helped?

Oh, my bad. You've never had a baby with silent reflux have you? So you wouldn't know...

You do spout some absolute shit don't you.

DD has just had her first at Boots (£95) and will have her second in Sept.

DS is 16 weeks so has had his with the NHS schedule.

I know complications/chance of catching it is small but I was quite willing to give up some things for a few months so we could save up to get her immunised (money is very tight)

Also looking in to the chicken pox one. Though we have barely any disposable income I consider it a top priority.

curtains hang in there. My baby finally outgrew her reflux at 15 months....
To the PPs who advise it often improves with weaning, I laugh in your face.

You clearly have zero experience with reflux or silent reflux or CMPI. I suggest you keep your mouths shut until you educate yourselves.

i have a theory that some battered babies are due the parents simply being unable to cope. Bear in mind I'm not a first time mother. Imagine the stress of a baby who never settles or stops crying for weeks and months. At 5 months old, I went to A and E.

A couple of times, I felt close to collapse. I cannot tell you the stress it causes when you are caring for a baby who screams with no let up. I'm strong and I used to walk the streets sobbing.

The Internet? Well, within a week of quitting dairy from my diet (and a host of other foods too), she stopped crying. She could actually lie flat.

The internet saved me. People like you should seriously get fucked as you have NO idea.

For any mother reading this and struggling, my heart goes out to you. There are some wonderful CMPI breastfeeding FB groups and reflux/silent reflux groups.

Mine are older and we've decided not to because the risk of contracting Men B is very low (and falling, even without the introduction of the vaccine), the risks aren't well characterised yet (because trials only consider short term risks in a relatively small number of people), and the protection isn't likely to last long anyway. The JCVI positional statements summarise the case very well, and I agree with their assessment that it isn't worth it for older children.

If we had another I think I'd spread out the jags so that Bexsero was given separately, to reduce side effects and also so that it would be clear what caused any problems - I don't how you can attribute a systemic side effect, like fever or a seizure, to a particular vaccine if you've given three or four at once! I found it interesting that in the paper Bumbley linked to upthread about Drs opinions in Germany most said they'd prefer to give it separately - makes perfect sense to me, especially with such a reactogenic vaccine.