To wonder what the fuck is happening at the moment

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Seriously, terror attacks, shootings, stabbing (8, 12, 14 yr old and their mum) in France and that is just the last few days.
I'm starting to wonder about a world that I have bought my daughter into and It's getting worse

I'm 19 weeks pregnant and have always had that worry of bringing a child into this messed up world! DP and I recently left the UK for various reasons, with that being one of them!

But would you want to run around when it's bucketing down or snowing? I'm not being flippant, I think there is something about light evenings and warmer weather

At the time of the 2011 riots, a high heid yin in the Scottish police force was asked to comment on why the violence had not spread to Glasgow.

I vaguely recall he said something along the lines of:

1. layout of Glasgow is such that the "type" of people more likely to riot tend to live on the fringes of the city, rather than the inner city, thus harder to mobilise.

2. It was raining in Scotland at the time, so no way undesirables were going to get off their sofas/put X box down, to go out and riot.

Where did you go to island life?

It's not just terrorist attacks I'm talking about, it's them all. Random attacks, domestic violence, terrorism. The list feels endless at the moment

I've 3 children, I think they're growing up in a much safer world than I did. They are more likely to be believed - they're not going to put up with verbal, sexual harassment - they're not told "oh it's one of those things", "all parents smack their kids", "everyone has a drink and drives" I heard all those things, I'm only in my early 40s. I grew up in Belfast in the 70s and 80s and still live here. I'm happier about my eldest going out than my mum was about me going out, but she still let us. She grew up in the 50s/60s - she felt we were safer than she was.

I do feel worried about a terrorist attack. I live in central London and sort of think it's inevitable.

One thing that I did think about though is whether the group would be better to fight off an attacker. Ie, the German guy with the axe in today's news - surely it would have been possible to wrestle him if there were 3 or 4 people involved?

Same as Mrs DV - I grew up in greater London and travelled daily to central London in the 1980s, while there were bombs from the IRA going off on a relatively regular basis.

It's not worse now, it's just different.

But back then I do remember thinking in my darker periods that I would never want to bring children into that world. Then there was a brief period of respite when things seemed better - until the Twin Towers event. And since then it just seems to have escalated again. I now have 2 DSs and yes, I do worry for them - but they're here now and all I can do is hope to teach them right from wrong and bring them up as safely as I can, within the confines of what is actually within my power.

It will always be this way until all humans evolve beyond feeling the need to extinguish the life in other humans.

Harumscarum - we moved to the Isle Of Man. And I love it! Everyone I've spoken to here says it's a great place to bring up children (although they get a bit bored as they get older!)

ALso, I agree that a lot of it is about better access to the news stories. DV was rarely reported, although stories like the Spalding murder/suicide one would have been.
But yes, the internet and social media have made it all more in yer face daily than it ever used to be, so it seems a lot worse. :(

I missed a tube train being blown up, by about two seconds in 1976. I missed a few other London bombings and one in St. Albans.
It's safer now.
Those of you using the 'religion of peace' meme, fuck off with your racism.

I'm beginning to think that once every generation there is a crucial tipping point moment. It depends on which way the pendulum goes. Sometimes it goes well. Sometimes, not so well...

It then depends on how well people react to that.

But I don't think its necessarily any better or worse than previously. We just are more aware of it.

I am worried.

There was a man at the dc's school who was looking at the mums in their frumpy mum vests and shorts (not short shorts by any means!) and then theatrically spat on the ground. His wife is completely covered (she wears shoe covers), including face mask and grille. What was especially worrying is that he did this in front of his young ds.

TimothyMc Veigh.
Wade Page.
Frank Roque.
Scott Roeder.
Jim Adkisson.
Paul Hill.
Eric Rudolph.
James Kopp.

I missed a tube train being blown up, by about two seconds in 1976

I think the Moorgate tragedy killed more

I rather think that Christianity has disgusting values, I can think of very few religions that don't.
However, in this case, Islam is a religion that is to some extent associated with race. My niece gets very shocked looks when people ask why she always has her hair covered. I suspect because she is very white.
Actually, I don't suspect that people are shocked when they discover she is a muslim (a lesbian one at that) because she's white. I know it.
Don't try and put me in my box because I pulled 'the race card'. People who defend their prejudices in that way, only deny their existence. It's a prejudice and a racist one in the main.

Rhoda that's awful. What did the mums say?

My partner used to work in the police force and he says rain is the best policeman, ie no one goes out in the rain. Likewise when it's really hot he sings "I predict a riot".

People are not born a muslim

You might want to loo at this, Boopsy:

islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm

I rather think that Christianity has disgusting values, I can think of very few religions that don't.

All religions are disgusting. They all insist that they are better than you. It might be all dressed up in a text that no one reads, but that's the bottom line - and the attraction for its followers.

Theydontknow... everyone shuffled and looked awkward as people do. Perhaps in the future women will grab a bigoted fool like that and stamp on him. But not now. People are too concerned about appearing reasonable and tolerant.