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Visiting family aibu

145 replies

Deedeegonemad · 16/07/2016 13:06

Visiting family, they are young and don't have children so the house is not in the slightest bit child proof.
Aibu to get annoyed at family member when said family member tells my dc no and don't do that. They are acting like normal toddlers running and climbing and wrestling it's what the dc do. It's not my dc fault that there are no toys to play with.

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Cosmo111 · 16/07/2016 15:09

I have a toddler she knows full well not be jumping around on people's sofas going through people's things etc. She behaves respectfully at home. There's no excuse not to discipline your child otherwise how else are they going to know that behaviour is unacceptable in people's homes and their own home if they aren't told.

LilacInn · 16/07/2016 15:09

It takes a village, OP. I have zero qualms about admonishing misbehaving children in my home.

Doggity · 16/07/2016 15:12

How many kids do you have and how old are they?

MrsKoala · 16/07/2016 15:15

Grumpy how should I face my responsibilities? Genuinely I all ears I appear to have tried everything but they still don't do anything they are told. We used to go then leave, but now I just won't bother. It's different if the person has children they just copy them (or at least the 4yo does and then I just wrangle the 2yo).

Ds1 has asd and ds2 is just 2!

trafalgargal · 16/07/2016 15:18

I really don't understand "I can't get them to behave" My son was "spirited" but he knew there were limits -and if he did misbehave I'd take him outside (if we were visiting or in say a resturant) for a calm down and a chat and then we'd return. Were my conversations interupted - yes sometimes, could I mess on my phone ? no sometimes not (big deal -my mobile is my servant I'm not its slave) and despite his spiritedness turning out to be Aspergers I'd be complimented on how well behaved he was.

You're the parent - you're in charge - getting even a spirited child to behave reasonably for an hour means showing patience and giving them positive attention - it's not rocket science.

ScarletForYa · 16/07/2016 15:20

it would be rude to just drive past

No, it's not. Don't feel obliged to call in, you might be annoying him.

MrsKoala · 16/07/2016 15:20

But then it sort of defeats the purpose of visiting someone if you have to spend the entire time giving your child attention. They would probably think you incredibly rude.

trafalgargal · 16/07/2016 15:24

With an ASD child consistency seemed to be the key...and remembering they don't like the unexpected. I used to talk about where we were going and what we'd be doing - beforehand. Oh yeah and never give an ASD child a surprise party -they really don't like surprises ;)

When in company I'd look out for the warning signs and get him outside for calm down and chat quickly and quietly before meltdown hit - sometimes he'd still have it outside, othertimes it would be enough to head it off completely.

RortyCrankle · 16/07/2016 15:25

YABVU and if you were my relative, OP, I would be begging you to drive past.

trafalgargal · 16/07/2016 15:29

But then it sort of defeats the purpose of visiting someone if you have to spend the entire time giving your child attention. They would probably think you incredibly rude.

Not half as rude as an out of control kid having a meltdown or wrecking their house.
If your child is so needy the only way you can get them to behave is 100% attention 100% of the time then yes visiting probably isn't a good idea until you've got them behaving at home - and understanding that to get attention they don't need to misbehave and that positive attention is a reward. Very much on the Jo Frost Super Nanny method.

mzS1990 · 16/07/2016 15:30

My son doesn't care about toys if he's visiting people. We always engaged him on convo if he got a bit fidgety.

He's been taught not to jump and climb and if he ever did, I'd expect whoever saw , to tell him not to do it.

Op you are so U. Put the tv on for them and tell them off for being uncouth...
And next time bring some toys if they can't behave

trafalgargal · 16/07/2016 15:34

You see it so often -kids misbehave to GET attention - If Mum is ignoring them then her shouting at them means she isn't ignoring them. Jo Frost is all about rewarding the positive and not rewarding the negative with attention. Have you seen any of her TV shows Mrs K ?

bloodymaria · 16/07/2016 15:47

So wierd, must be a reverse? By the brother? SIL?

Thomasisintraining · 16/07/2016 15:53

Mrs K I know what you mean, children with ASD and 2 year olds are predictably unpredictable your strategy might be the best until you are back in full health post pregnancy to try to improve things.

My little fella is a delight but is very 'odd' in his interaction with other children. Whereas his BFF also with HFA has explosive unpredictable outbursts but outside of theses and in the main he behaves exactly like other children his age. The usual adage applies when you have met one child with ASD you have met one child with ASD so no one can comment on whether Jo Frost will vaguely work for you, any PDA or oppositional ASD behaviours and I suspect it would be the exact opposite of what might work.

DeathStare · 16/07/2016 15:57

This must be a reverse surely?

Of course it's unreasonable to not keep your toddler under control in someone else's house.

Of course the parent is the person responsible for bringing the toys to keep them entertained/under control.

Of course it is unreasonable to allow your toddler to clamber all over someone else's sofa no matter whether it is old and second hand or shiny and brand new.

Nobody could actually believe the opposite could they?

MudCity · 16/07/2016 16:01

Hilarious!

Are you sure the people you are visiting want you there? Have you asked them?

Why should they have toys available to keep your children entertained?

If I were them I would pretend to be out when your car draws up!

YABU and very, very entitled.

OlennasWimple · 16/07/2016 16:09

Our DC have small rucksacks so they can take toys, books, drawing stuff with them. If you're only visiting got an hour you shouldn't need much anyway

trafalgargal · 16/07/2016 16:16

Actually consistency works with all ADS children (my experience isn't just parenting). Unpredictability is quite scary so someone else's house with different rules is a trigger area.

Stopyourhavering · 16/07/2016 16:22

YABU.....A bag of toys/ books/ colouring stuff does not take up much room!
My fil never had any toys either but we managed!!

AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2016 16:25

This has just got to be a reverse.

And so my advice is to turn out the lights, hide under the (second hand) couch, and not answer the door.

kali110 · 16/07/2016 16:34

Is this a piss take?

Just because you gave them the couch does not mean your kids can ruin it!
Take some toys with you. Why should they have to
Keep toys in their house Confused
You don't want to fill up your own car, so you want to fill up someone's ( who doesn't even have kids!) house?
Can you not see how wrong you are?
They are your kids.
Yabu massively and really entitled.
Wouldn't be surprised if they stopped inviting you in. I'd be well pissed off.

Sn0tnose · 16/07/2016 16:35

You're absolutely right; it's not the fault of your children that there are no toys to play with and that they find it boring. That's all on you Lady.

When you gave them your old sofa, you gave up all of your DC's clambering, climbing and jumping rights along with it. If you want to see them playing on the sofa, take them home and let them play on yours. Get off your phone and start parenting your children so that other people don't have to do it for you.

kali110 · 16/07/2016 16:35

stop yes! When i was taken to visit relatives or parents friends i had a rucksack with a book in, paper and a little game. Def no needto jump over the furniture Confused

MrsKoala · 16/07/2016 17:05

Not half as rude as an out of control kid having a meltdown or wrecking their house.

Well yes, of course, which is why i said it's better not to go visiting. I don't want to derail about my dc ( but in brief answers to your questions i have seen supernanny and have one of her books along with many many others - nothing works and as for the asd rule book, my ds hasn't read it and in actual fact loves surprises and gets much worse behaved if he is 'prepared in advance' Confused He appears to have heavy aspects of pda and is 'self led', so no amount of preparation makes any difference. You should see him in the drs surgery - last time he ripped down the curtains and 3 of the shelves :( curtains, throws, soft furnishings and cushions excite him to the point he can't control himself).

However, my point really is it's irrelevant why your dc cannot behave, it is still miserable for them to be told no constantly and told off, it's really miserable you to have to do it and i'm sure it's monumentally miserable if you are being the one visited. I know people without dc (or who had extremely compliant/quiet ones) who do really expect them just to sit quietly with little or no interaction and get pissed off if anyone has to give them attention when they feel that they are the one being visited. Which makes trying to entertain your dc really really hard.

My dad gets cross and say's 'I'M TALKING TO YOU' if me or my mum gives dc attention when he thinks it should be on him - but sadly 2 year olds don't wait for opportune moments to yank open a drawer or tip up the water bowl. He also believes i should just be able to tell them to sit still and they should, with no toys or anything else.

Anyway - my point is, without all the waffling, that you probably just shouldn't go, it doesn't sound like anyone gets anything out of these visits.

CatchIt · 16/07/2016 17:10

Until j got to the sofa bit, I thought you were my db & sil.

Yabvvu. Your Dec would drive me nuts & I have 2.

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