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Brexit rage

706 replies

holeinyourhead · 06/07/2016 18:52

What's happened in the last 10 days has really affected me. It's all I think about tbh and I feel so enraged at seeing the politicians lie to us so lavishly then bail on us so swiftly, yet I'm completely powerless to do anything. I marched, I wrote to my MP, I've signed petitions. I'm obviously one of the 48% who wanted to remain. I can't find fault with the 52% who voted to leave, it's not their fault. It's a democratic process, I understand that of course. Everyone's entitled to their view and it's not that I'm a sore loser. But the catastrophic fallout isn't what even the most hardline leave voter would have wished for, there's no Brexit plan, and the future looks very bleak. I was at a conference today and a Conservative MP and a Brussels Eurocrats both agreed a recession in the medium term is now inevitable. People around me seem to be getting on with things - I wish I could too - but I've been very tearful and sleepless and worried sick. I run a European business just out of start up phase, employing a handful of people who by chance are not British born and who are now very nervous themselves about the future. The more I read the more hopeless I feel with each passing resignation. AIBU to feel like this? Does anyone else feel the same? Am I going nuts?!! I feel very alone.

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Cosmiccreepers203 · 06/07/2016 22:15

Yes, but what I'm saying is that referendums like this, when run in other countries require a larger majority to pass, at least closer to 60%. This should have been laid down from the very beginning. The UK isn't used to voting in referendums and some voters didn't seem to understand the difference.

Also, I was mainly responding to beetroot who said the majority of the country had voted to leave. This is not true.
But thanks for bothering to engage. I'm not sure I'll ever get any response from beetroot as it is not their style. Almost as if they were some sort of hairy handed bridge dweller. Wink

FellOutOfBed2wice · 06/07/2016 22:16

StrictlyMumDancing do you live in a borough with a market dating back to the 13th century that begins with an R? Was that very same market on the news making us all look like utter fucking bellends the day after the referendum? If so, yep, I'm right here with you!

clam · 06/07/2016 22:16

This just about sums it up too.

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AnnieKenney · 06/07/2016 22:16

I really don't understand the investment that some Leavers seem to have in insisting I should be happy about the consequences. Why does it bother them so that I m not happy with their choice? It just feels mean spirited and bullying.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 22:18

Its not bullying at all. Going along with what a democratic society voted is the right thing to do.

Cosmiccreepers203 · 06/07/2016 22:18

beetroot give me an example of when the EU has forced something on us or stopped us from doing something.

ilovesooty · 06/07/2016 22:19

I'm not sure I'll ever get any response from beetroot

I don't think she's capable of providing one that's remotely sensible.

fryingtoday · 06/07/2016 22:19

No wonder antidepressants are costing the NHS £780,000 a day. Mumsnet is becoming as mood depressing as daytime television.

ToastDemon · 06/07/2016 22:19

White South Africans in 1992 managed to do the right thing, and vote - overwhelmingly - yes to the end of Apartheid. Yet England and Wales couldn't even manage to vote not to ruin their own economy.
I had honestly thought Britain was better than this.

RufusTheReindeer · 06/07/2016 22:20

You can't argue with stupid Sad

Cosmiccreepers203 · 06/07/2016 22:20

sooty You are probably right. But I live in hope Wink

ReallyTired · 06/07/2016 22:21

The country voted leave and those who did not vote abstained and should not be counted as remain voters. As a nation we need to look to the future. Certainly leaving the EU cuts off opportunities, but the freedom of being outside the EU creates new opportunities.

I would rather that the uk was poor than part of an EU superstate. I believe we will have a tough few years, but long term we will better off. I believe that the eu project is destroying Greece, Italy, France and Spain. Centralised control means that no one's needs are met.

allegretto · 06/07/2016 22:21

And stop saying it's democratic when so many people were disenfranchised.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 22:22

Typical, knew it wouldn't take long before the personal attacks happened.

StrictlyMumDancing · 06/07/2016 22:22

Yes fell that's precisely where I am. If it's any comfort at least we aren't alone now! I got the rage when Cameron resigned and people were celebrating. Not only we we massive brexit, but were massive Tories. I was staring at them thinking 'but you fuckers voted him in ffs' though rationally knowing it's not that simple.

365isalot · 06/07/2016 22:24

Oh god i so agree OP i share your feelings. It is just bloody dreadful and I don't know where to turn. It really is grief we are going through. And i am permanently furious, my anger is eating at me every waking hour .

FreshHorizons · 06/07/2016 22:25

YANBU. I have spoken to so many people who actually felt sick at the result. I am still depressed by it. I am so sad that the future has been jeopardised for my children and grandchildren when some people voted for the silliest of reasons (like thinking we would get our old light bulbs back!!)or they believed we would have millions on the NHS or immigration would change.Even worse were those who thought you could vote tactically in a referendum and then were horrified to find us out.
I was very irritated by the cosy little saying the next day which ended 'it was all over by tea time' as if nanny was telling us we were being silly to fuss. They have gone very quiet - no mention of the fact that it was certainly not all over!
Mostly I am upset by the fact there was NO plan! How irresponsible. Even more annoyed to be told that those campaigning to leave didn't need a plan!!

Cosmiccreepers203 · 06/07/2016 22:26

I'm not attacking you. I'm asking you to support your argument. You haven't actually replied to the points I've made. This is pretty poor debating and leads me to believe that you're only here to futher upset people who are trying to have a genuine conversation. Unless you can prove otherwise and actually engage properly then I'll report you to MNHQ, again.

RufusTheReindeer · 06/07/2016 22:28

My comment was to foursillybeans, no idea why it took so long to come through Hmm

Most of my leave friends voted after thinking long and hard....some of them did it for stupid reasons

You can debate with someone sensible

TulipsInAJug · 06/07/2016 22:29

Rage? Because the vote didn't go your way?

Lies were told by both sides during an extended campaign, debates were held, the British public made up their mind and voted to leave. MPs have accepted the result apart from a few opportunistic Lib Dems and the SNP. You need to accept it too.

Libby Purves wrote a column entitled 'Hysterical Lefties need to Grow up'. It reminded me of MN and the vitriol that has been spewed against Leavers.

I voted to Leave for far-sighted reasons. Primarily my reasons were democracy and sovereignty. Remainers are Neo-Liberals, I get that. The Remain campaign was all about big business, bankers, political establishment, elites. Many had a vested interest in remaining in the EU.

However for others, there were more important, bigger, things at stake than the economy. The economy will recover. But this might have been our only chance to claw back our sovereignty before it was too late. I am glad we got out when we did (and we will, so it's best to just accept a democratic vote and move on).

365isalot · 06/07/2016 22:29

Don't know what you're on about cosmicwhatever or who you are talking to !

Cosmiccreepers203 · 06/07/2016 22:30

I'm talking to beetroot. Do keep up.

TulipsInAJug · 06/07/2016 22:31

Yet England and Wales couldn't even manage to vote not to ruin their own economy.
I had honestly thought Britain was better than this.

Thankfully Britain WAS better that just thinking in a narrow, short-term way about the economy. Thank God for that.

365isalot · 06/07/2016 22:33

Dream on , Leave voters. And who will you blame when you , your families get laid off, when your kids can't travel or work abroad , oh youll blame someone, not yourselves.. Youve destroyed our country and you will wake up one day and feel ashamed

FreshHorizons · 06/07/2016 22:33

So many people have said it is like a bereavement. I agree 365isalot- I am still furious.
I am older and so I didn't think of me- I voted for my children and grandchildren. My DCs all voted remain and didn't know anyone young who voted out. I know friends my age who voted out and their children were astounded, furious with them and upset when they found out.
We should never have had a referendum on something so important that can't be changed. I saw a man in FB the next day say 'hooray now I can get a house'- I wonder quite what planet he is living on!