Brexit rage

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What's happened in the last 10 days has really affected me. It's all I think about tbh and I feel so enraged at seeing the politicians lie to us so lavishly then bail on us so swiftly, yet I'm completely powerless to do anything. I marched, I wrote to my MP, I've signed petitions. I'm obviously one of the 48% who wanted to remain. I can't find fault with the 52% who voted to leave, it's not their fault. It's a democratic process, I understand that of course. Everyone's entitled to their view and it's not that I'm a sore loser. But the catastrophic fallout isn't what even the most hardline leave voter would have wished for, there's no Brexit plan, and the future looks very bleak. I was at a conference today and a Conservative MP and a Brussels Eurocrats both agreed a recession in the medium term is now inevitable. People around me seem to be getting on with things - I wish I could too - but I've been very tearful and sleepless and worried sick. I run a European business just out of start up phase, employing a handful of people who by chance are not British born and who are now very nervous themselves about the future. The more I read the more hopeless I feel with each passing resignation. AIBU to feel like this? Does anyone else feel the same? Am I going nuts?!! I feel very alone.

fell you may be one of my neighbours. We've been on the news full of people jubilant that the foreigners are being sent back home. That rages me too as its so hard to argue that all leavers aren't idiots when you are surrounded by those idiots.

As for lives at risk well mine isn't currently but my neighbours feel like it, given one has lost his job as a direct result and the other of the couple is looking that way.

Clam no we tried and failed to effect change from the inside. How did the negotiations go? There is a mindless drive for absorption and expansion and it is/was insane.

I genuinely don't believe without our financial input the EU can survive in the long term. Might be wrong, you might be right. We shall wait and see. And that's the point of democracy isn't it? To have the right to an opinion.

Lots of companies have gone down the pan over the last few years. It's sad and unfortunate but it happens.

I voted out, as did a majority of the UK.

Wonders why that was then. Hmmmm maybe because most of the country were dissatisfied with what was in place.

Ive watched it avidly from the moment the vote was due to be cast. Im delighted. Head's have rolled and rightly so. A new era for me.

YADNBU OP. I want to smack people telling me my very EU specific job will be fine. The EU institution that's brought 10000s of highly skilled and well paid jobs won't need to move!!! Utter bollocks.

I fucking wish they would shut up with the optimistic shit based on absolutely no knowledge.

You are BVU marching. Top Tip: if you feel strongly about something and want to march on parliament about it, try doing it before the country goes the polls rather than after.

weve tried to change from the inside
True In some respect. But by sending the likes of Farage out there being goady and refusing to work with them, preferring to work against them, we weren't ever going to get far.

What upsets and really depressed me more than anything, more than the economy tanking, loss of substantial research funds, loss of infrastructure funding, loss of the European Social Fund (most of Cornwall recently developed on those funds), more than ALL thR, is tbe small-minded xenophobia behind tbe Leave vote.

I'm English, and British, but also European. I'm really proud to be part of that larger federation of wonderful nations, each with a distinct national culture, but also committed to the big generous capacious idea of unity and peace. Peace in Europe. Don't underestimate it. (I keep on humming the chorus from Big Yellow Taxi)

I already know of one colleague whose European passport has been challenged as giving them the right to work here. And that's in a university 😞 The small-minded racists now feel they have the licence to speak their nastiness out loud, instead of just thinking it.

Still, I suppose itrans we know who and what we're up against.

Yanbu. Fucking furious for all the reasons you outlined. Not a single person in the leave camp knows what the hell to do now. They were/are self interested politicians who lied and capitalized on people's fears. Then ran off when they realised what they'd done. It will be down to others to sort it now and the rest of us to buckle up yet again for a horrible economic slump when we're only really just now recovering properly from the big crash. Shot ourselves firmly in both feet.

So you voted out of pure greed terry one of the 7 deadly sins

beetroot Companies do fail, individually, and that can have very little effect on the overall economy.

However, if you look st the FTSE 250, where most UK companies are listed, you've find that it is tanking, particularly shares in house builders and property companies. The knock on effect of a fair few of these companies failing at the same time, as it looks likely to happen now, will be enormous in loss of jobs and therefore tax revenues. How do you think the government pays for anything?

The majority of the country did not vote out. Leave won by a small majority. So small that in any other country the referendum would have been re-run to find a larger majority. As a percentage of the population it is actually only 38%. I assume you can see that's not the majority of the country.

OP, you are not alone with your feelings. I am depressed about it every day still, as are many other people that I know. I can't tell you it will all be fine. But wish you the best.

I'm sad because:

• of xenophobia in the country of a realisation that there is more polarisation in the country than I had realised
• for the future that would have been a lot more straightforward for a lot more people (particularly outside major cities)

• We are personally worse off (my family) and we worked hard for the situation we have, I have to work harder to be where I was before and face lots more uncertainly about jobs etc for our family

I'm angry:

• The recession is unnecessary
• Racist and mindless attacks
• The generation that mainly voted for this, all have pensions already, my generation and the next is going to have to work harder to get us out of this
• Despite warning the younger generation didn't vote and were way to apathetic
• The lies that were told during the campaign.
• The press for repeating the lies
• The politicians (Millionaires - all of them) who got away with it
• Naive people that believed the lies without researching

• Stupid comments about how it will all be better in the end (this is so annoying) - WHEN IS THE END!!! NEXT GENERATION? the process is going to take 10 years. Thats 10 years of lawyers fees, consultants fees being poured down the drain - NOT into the NHS. All the european bureaucrats know the legislation better than us we will be walked over and trampled on during our exit from the 40 years of membership (legal papers)....
• Allies and trade agreements are good... Putin is BAD.. being together is better
• this country can take loads more immigrants and it would not even touch the sides of the majority of peoples live and would enrich many - totally unnecessary racism..
• Nigel Farage
• Boris Johnson

-David Cameron

• Michael Gove
• so much more....

Cosmic how do you suggest we get a majority? Fines for not using your vote? Public whipping for the uninvolved?

The largest % of the population who exercised their right to vote, voted leave.

being together is better

That's all that needs to be said really. The foundation of human society.

Various countries have compulsory voting - Australia for example. And on an issue of this importance a two-thirds majority should have been required.

The "majority of the population" did NOT vote to leave.

Toys and pram comes to mind.

The degree of anger over this is ridiculous. As a democracy the vote was cast. Im glad for it, you may not be but to take to your beds (heard that one) to be filled with rage etc. is pathetic. Things need to change and they will.

Oh excuse me for caring that my company will have to abandon the process of securing contracts benefiting many vulnerable people.

Agree Foggy. The potential for the break-up of the UK, and even the EU is very real now - and it won't bring any good.

Anything that makes people like Putin, Trump, Farage happy, really shouldn't be considered a good idea.

So what needed to change?

How will things change, exactly?

The degree of anger is most certainly not ridiculous. The economy is ruined, the value of sterling is trashed, we've had our European citizenship taken from us, people are already losing their jobs, people whose whole lives are here might have to leave the country, racist attacks are on the increase... and I have to hear some facile shite about toys and prams??

YANBU I swing between rage, despair and a kind of acceptance.
No sooner have I achieved some kind of equilibrium than some idiot confesses they voted leave and now wish they hadn't or comments that the £350 million (which never existed! ) on the bus can now be spent on the NHS!!
That's enough to light the blue touch paper all over again.

However, you will survive OP - we all will - in the meantime, we just have to find ways to channel our anger positively, if we possibly can. But no, don't lose the anger - it can help us fight for a more fair, more inclusive, more creative place.

Countries should be allowed to make their own rules and operate by them. This is the way forward. The EU gained far too much power and was out of control. It will now hopefully disband.

Beetroot - I didn't have a vote and yet my life has been turned upside down by Brexit. I have lost several thousand pounds ( several months wages) and my house purchase is in jeopardy - that's just the immediate effect. Don't tell me that's democratic.

Words fail me.