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If a general election is called would you vote Lib Dem to stay in the EU?

308 replies

Rainbunny · 28/06/2016 21:49

If there is a general election the Lib Dems have stated they will run on a platform to keep the UK in the EU if they win. The Tories obviously won't do that and the Labour party can't really run on that platform I don't think since so many Labour voters voted to leave. I'm curious if the Lib Dems would attract a lot of support since they would effectively be turning the general election into a second referendum.

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BumbleNova · 29/06/2016 09:10

Yes - god this has made me less bloody depressed. go Farron!

I am a natural lib dem voter but there was no candidate where I voted last.

I am praying that we get a pro-EU labour leader and the Libdems can sweep up enough pro-EU vote that we get a centre-left coalition.

the thought of BoJo, that conniving bastard, anywhere near power makes me want to vomit.

MaryPoppinsPenguins · 29/06/2016 09:12

Yes... Fingers hugely crossed for this!!

BumbleNova · 29/06/2016 09:13

I've just joined the party and I will be getting out there to campaign. I'm pissed off and i want to do everything in my power to make this bad dream stop.

Itinerary · 29/06/2016 09:25

We don't know where a remain result would have taken us, now or later. I think it would have been different but ultimately worse. Anyone who cared to look could see the predictions of potential downsides of a leave vote, and yet "leave" was still chosen as there are so many good sides to it. No further referendum required.

BumbleNova · 29/06/2016 09:27

Itinerary - this is a really interesting round up. the leave promises are literally fantasy:

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/8-of-the-most-misleading-promises-of-the-vote-leave-campaign-ranked-in-order-of-preposterousness--WyxD59VO3Nb

trixymalixy · 29/06/2016 09:31

Yes, but I tend to vote lib dem anyway

JuneFromBethesda · 29/06/2016 09:36

I've just joined the party and I will be getting out there to campaign. I'm pissed off and i want to do everything in my power to make this bad dream stop.

Exactly what BumbleNova said

areyoutheregoditsmemargaret · 29/06/2016 09:36

Since Labour don't stand a chance in my constituency, yes

Homemama · 29/06/2016 09:36

Possibly, yes. Yes in a heartbeat if they brought Nick Clegg back.

He got so much shit over tuition fees but they weren't in a majority government. It wasn't as easy as people make out. Plus, as a teacher, I will ever be grateful that in agreeing to let go of tuition fees, he managed to get pupil premium through.

In the last 20yrs, 2 things have made a massive difference to the lives of children living in poverty. One was tax credits and the other, pupil premium.

evilcherub · 29/06/2016 09:38

Nope.

lifeistooshort · 29/06/2016 09:39

Yes. For that reason and also because I can no longer stand the labour and conservatives, their lies and seeming disregard for the nation electing them

redexpat · 29/06/2016 09:44

No because they say whatever will get them elected. See tuition fees.

Bambamrubblesmum · 29/06/2016 09:47

I completely agree Bumble. I've never ever been active in politics before but if the lib dems formalise it on their election manifesto I would go out campaigning too. We need to rally the younger generations and get them to vote.

Itinerary · 29/06/2016 09:49

Bumble sceptisism is fine and healthy, but the claims in the article of things which "won't come true" are just claims so far. This is only the third working day since the result was announced. The long term effects of leaving the EU cannot be assessed until well after we've actually left. One comment by Dan Hannan or Farage, or one snapshot day of the stock market, does not mean those things will happen.

ExitPursuedByBear · 29/06/2016 10:05

If the lib Dems hadnt stuffed up last time we wouldn't have had the referendum as it was one of the things the Tories would have used as a trade off for a coalition.

MackerelOfFact · 29/06/2016 10:16

No. I don't believe the Liberal Democrats will ever form a majority government.

Labour need to sort themselves out and start appealing to their traditional voter base before an even greater number defect to UKIP.

I am genuinely terrified that in the current climate we could end up with a UKIP government. I wouldn't waste my vote on a party that don't have a hope of winning a majority of seats.

Ideologically I am probably most closely aligned to the Lib Dems than any other party but under the current voting system I can't vote for them again.

Mistigri · 29/06/2016 10:44

I'd vote tactically for any pro-Europe party if I had a vote (and I might in the next GE if the bloody government get a move on with removing the 15 year limit - this was a manifesto promise btw).

I might join the Lib Dems though. They can take my money right now if they are really capable of uniting pro-europe voters.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 29/06/2016 10:53

I am a senior(ish) civil servant. A little while ago I was chatting to a very experienced, very senior civil servant. He told me that of all the governments he had worked for, the coalition govt was by far and away the most effective and suffered from far less arguing and bickering.

I also know for a fact that the Tory hierarchy never expected to win the general election and included several policies in their manifesto that were only put there so that they could be ditched following post-election negotiations.

The Lib Dems got unfairly treated over tuition fees and we all have paid a heavy price.

OneArt · 29/06/2016 10:59

MessedUpWheelieBin no it's not like saying that, because we have to choose one of parties here. We can't just have none of them (in your analogy, you could choose to remain single). Out of the possible options, it's OK to say this issue is more important than the previous let down regarding tuition fees.

Homemama · 29/06/2016 11:20

I want Nick Clegg as my next PM. Nick, if you or Miriam are reading then you know what we want and perhaps a new party is the way forward.
-liberal, in the true sense of the word.
-pro European
-compassion and empathy for those less fortunate.
-a good grasp of economics so the previous point can be implemented without bankrupting us.

LadyLannister · 29/06/2016 11:35

Yes I would.

NannyMarmalade · 29/06/2016 11:46

I will probably have to vote Tory to keep the UKIP-gobshite out.

alleykitten · 29/06/2016 11:46

Yes. Ex-Lib Dem member and activist (Charles Kennedy era). I don't like Farron particularly and would much prefer Clegg - the knee-jerk response from the Left over Coalition compromises disgusted me and I struggle to take politics with hard-left friends over it. As PPs have said, Pupil Premium is SO important.

I am probably going to rejoin but want to wait the next few days out to see if Labour collapses enough to form a new left-of-centre liberal party. The cries of 'Blairite!' and 'tuition fees!' have created toxicity for Labour and LibDems and if a new social democratic party could be formed uniting the moderate majority I think this would be better in what will likely remain a two-party system.

I'm not sure there's enough political will to do this yet, though, so will probably be a member by next week. And in my rural consistency LDs are the only hope on local and Westminster level against some utter arseholes.

Oysterbabe · 29/06/2016 11:47

Yes absolutely.

trixymalixy · 29/06/2016 12:02

No we can't have Clegg. He will forever be associated with the tuition fees u turn.

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