To find Game of Thrones unwatchable?

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I just can't bear it, DH loves it and thinks it's bizarre I don't. I hate the violence the sickening violence and debasement oh dear I've gone Victorian
I try and go out the room or read MN but he keeps saying "oh you missed such and such do such and such".
Maybe I should ltb
I think the dragons and wolves are pretty though.

GoT has a massive, global fan base. So yes, I do think YABU.

I love it, but understand that it is horses for courses. Some people watch Eastenders and I find that horrific

Its the kind of thing I would have liked aged 15.

Yes its better than most of the drivel on terrestrial tv but its not in the class of other box sets (Sopranos, Mad Men, Narcos, House of Cards, The Killing etc), nor is it as good as some of the series on tv (Deutschland 83, Broadchurch, Line of Duty).

Gratuitous sex and violence is just a tad dull, There might be some complex characters and good dialogue but it gets lost amid the rape and blood.

I'm halfway through series 4 and have stalled there. I admire things about it (nice landscapes....) but breaking of Theon nearly broke me. I'm not sure the pleasures of the series outweigh the extreme discomfort I feel at times.

I'll probably go on with it, but will be watching bits on mute and from behind a cushion.

The latest season has been a lot less rapey and there wasn't much rape to begin with. Just a lot of sex

The season just finished was a master piece with cgi.

They really went all out

The violence is not gratuitous. If you live through a civil war, there will be a lot of violence and it won't be confined to the soldiers, either. Women and children get killed in war all the time. Even outside the war zone in a society where women and children are considered inferior to men, they get treated appallingly.

Two ways to make people think about the world they live in through fiction/drama:

1. Show them the world as it could be - make them think how lovely it would be

1. Show them the world as it is - make them realise what is wrong with it and what needs to be put right

GoT is in the fantasy genre, not historical fiction, but I'd say it goes nearer to the second route. It shows a pre-industrial, feudal society where women and children are chattels. In some parts of that world slavery is still legal. It would be a ludicrously sanitised view of a world like that to show a dynastic power struggle and shy away from what would happen to the people involved.

I love Game of Thrones. It's amongst the best TV I've ever seen. I can hardly bear to think it's ten months till the next series.

Violence for entertainment is always gratuitous though.

It leaves me cold too....... I don't hate it , it's just a programme I don't watch.
I work for the broadcaster and we had some incentive where the prizes were GoT tat err I mean merchandise. Strangely it didn't motivate me one iota.

I love it. But then, I guess my name here is the giveaway.

I kind of like the comic book, over the top, ridiculous violence. Yet I loathe films like 'The Godfather' and anything Quentin Tarantino which seem to me to be actual porn in that they glamorise violence. There is an underlying sensibility in GoT totally absent from, say, 'Pulp Fiction' which I found so boring, I literally fell asleep the one time I tried to watch it.

Am a big fan of the fantasy genre anyway so thrilled to see it finally take its place as a high ratings thing. (Am a Tolkien geek so also love the JRRT references).

YANBU, OP as we all like different things. I think the characters with underlying decency and honour - like Ned Stark, Jon Snow, Davos - counter-balance the violence. But also there are no absolutes so it is far subtler than the other sorts of viollent film or TV which I tend to find boring - there are complex characters like Jaime, or Bronn, who are both good and bad.

I thought the hugely violent Arya/The Waif interludes were bloody brilliant.

I also thought the Battle of the Bastards was probably the best shot war sequence ever - including film. It didn't glamorise war - totally the opposite. But it had to be unflinching and brutal, in order to do that.

I am loving the people trying to justify their adoration for something which at the end of the day is just a fantasy television series filled with dragons and the suchlike as something which is historically accurate and therefore in some way educational and worthy.

Some people like it, I don't. I'm not on a mission to convert Game of Throne lovers to watching what I like. (And yes, agree that Deutschland 83 was great but ending was a let-down). Game of Thrones is just silly, frivolous telly with no deeper meaning. Nothing wrong with that, just don't make it out to be something it's not.

Little bit ironic there Luna
If your user name is anything to go by, you clearly love Harry Potter with all the hippogriffs and dementors. And of course Voldemort.

Of course everyone has the right not to like what everyone else does but you are going to get some who do love it and will explain why

No I do love Harry Potter - but I don't make out that it's intellectually challenging, historically accurate or something other than escapism and a bloody good story.

It would be like me preaching to non HP fans that the series is super-worthy because the spells are based on Latin or something.

It's fantasy. It can't be 'historically accurate'! Although George Martin clearly has been inspired by (aminly) British history, with a bit of 'I, Claudius' thrown in.

Fantasy as a genre has often been dismissed as 'childish' (because of the dragons etc!) Yet fantasy writers like Tolkien and Martin make current, relevant points (Tolkien as a WW1 veteran himself lost every single one of his old Birmingham friends - I'd guess it was emotional release to write about the nature of war, without it being a literal, historical war he was describing?) Fantasy is just another way of exploring reality, in other words.

No, Harry Potter is too derivative and shallow to be comparable to the greats. It got a lot of kids reading and Rowling comes from a great place, politically etc - but ultimately, she is not a great writer. It's not comparing like with like.

What I'm trying to say is you still like a movie that is heavily based in fantasy which essentially is what game of thrones is about.

It's not for everyone true, but you don't need a reason to enjoy it. Like someone said its like marmite. You either like or you don't

That pie tho

Yvaine I was a bit last night when I saw that too!!
DH and I couldn't work out if it was actually half an eyeball poking out when the pastry was lifted or not!!

No it was a finger with the nail attached

Need thank you for clarification!! The sun was shining on my tv....I could see it was clearly a body part, but couldn't work out what it was!
DH will be excited when I tell him I know what it was because he guessed it was a toe

That's ok. I made sure I closed all my curtains just to watch it. Even though it was 10am

I like it. It's refreshing to have an adult themed, high quality programme with magic and dragons. It's rated 18 and every episode starts with a disclaimer about the content.

I couldn't read the books as someone was being raped every 5 minutes. In the show I think everyone who has been depicted raping someone has been killed, which is justice in that universe.

I really like it, my dh thinks it is dull apart from the big action scenes. The scenes where children are hurt are shocking but it is fictional and they are meant to be shocking. Less shocking than the real world violence currently commited against children unfortunately.

I found it boring. I watched 4 seasons just because DH wanted to see it, but I would rather watch something else. He is watching the latest season on his own. I have been watching Fringe.

I can't stomach it. I would love to, as it's right up my street in the fantasy theme but I just can't do violence to that extent.

DD loves it she watched the finale at 2am its not for me i have tried but rape boobs( so many boobs) and incest isnt my thing and there is far to many characters in it very busy programme

No one's really saying its historically accurate (they may have used the phrase, but didn't mean it in those terms).

However, I enjoy the interweaving of historical inspiration. The red wedding takes inspiration from the 'black dinner' of the Douglas clan in medieval Scotland, the blackwater from the siege of Constantinople, it's just an addition bit of intertextuality and fun. I don't think anyone's claiming it makes it more worthy.

I fecking love it, yet I'm not into sci-fi or fantasy.

It's nasty, it's gritty but it's very funny at times too. The comedy between Varys and little Finger always had me in stitches. Tyrion is also a bit of a comedian, so is podraig and Bronn and even Joffrey was particularly funny at times.

It's still a bit 'Tits and dragons' with the odd ball bag thrown in but these scenes are very much in context with the story. I think the fans 'get it' whereas others don't and that's fine. But no its not all violence, there is also bloody brilliant drama and comedy, but it's not not for everyone.