I voted Leave but don't deserve abuse for it !!!!

[AmyWatt1972]

Yesterday I voted to leave after months of thought about all the main issues regarding membership.

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army.

Immigration and economics for me were lesser issues. But still influenced my vote.

The names on here and Twitter that have been directed at leave voters has astonished me.

I am not uneducated, racist or xenophobic. I simply want the best for my country and that IMO is leave and I am overjoyed with the victory today against all odds.

Maybe if those on the remain side looked more into the arguments instead of name calling it would have been a different result.

It shocks me that labour supporters on Twitter are saying these horrible names against leave voters, but they need us to get their seats in the north, I don't think it is a good idea to insult your own base.

Even on mumsnet rhetoric has been appalling, I have had posters say they can't bring themselves to speak to leave voting parents.

Why can't you just accept maybe that leave possibly has a better campaign/arguments.

This idea that many leave voters regret the vote is wrong, everyone I know who voted leave is in a joyous mode today.

Can we just move on now and accept the result instead of insulting 52% of the population.

Tulipsinajug sadly it is - I'm an EU legislator and the mess is beyond incredulous. That is only from a technical perspective, and does not take into account the simplistic and abominable notions leavers have been led to believe.

He/she isn't wrong TulipsInAJug and I don't see it as an insult. World experts in a variety of fields don't know what is going to happen now, but millions of regular Brits do, apparently?

This was never meant to be for us, it was David Cameron's attempt to shut up the Euro Sceptics in his party, but thanks in part to the huge immigrant row that has blown up since the election, lots of regular people had axes to grind.

The ironic thing is that the French are now almost definitely going to stop policing Calais for us after their election next year (only next year because it's going to be an election winning promise) and then we'll probably have refugee camps springing up in Dover. So much for the Daily Mail commenters rallying cry of 'Send 'em all back'...

The NHS will be worse than underfunded. You've handed the Tories a mandate to privatise the NHS.

We have just handed the biggest right-wing mandate to the conservatives that ever there was. The tories will be unfettered by EU laws - Human Rights laws, employment laws, trade unions will suffer. Margaret Thatcher will look like Tony Benn after this.

This was democratic in its true form... One person one vote.
It was marvellous to see democracy in action.
No, OP, you should not be abused. That is tantamount to fascism. Just because people don't like the result does not mean it is not valid. It was just a bit of a surprise.
Personally I consider myself equal to everybody and everybody equal to me regardless of income or education. Whether the referendum was a good idea or not is irrelevant, likewise whether I like it or not is irrelevant, the majority has spoken, we now know the result and must work the best way forward.
I am horrified by the vitriol that is bring thrown by people who do jig like the final decision.

A much too complex decision for the majority

Sadly yes.

What I find staggering, is that if MN is anything to go by, many people have voted leave on conceptions that aren't even true.

Isn't the French policing of Calais a separate agreement? It's not part of the EU rules.

Just celebrate and be happy. Many people lost their job today, others like me have lost thousand of pounds in savings and investment. Hope you are happy. Well fucking done you.

"I voted leave to tell the political elite that I was angry"

which would be fine if your choice had not utterly screwed my Childrens' future
for which I will never forgive you

The EU was one of the reasons why we were able to borrow money on the cheap. Not anymore! So all those posters complaining about being on zero hours contracts... enjoy living on the streets as the conservatives won't spend shit to save you from the streets as even the zero hour contracts disappear.

Most low skilled/unskilled labour will be replaced by robotics and other cheaper methods so fighting for something that won't even last very long... hilarious. Without the security of the EU, we won't be able to borrow on the cheap and as more and more industries disappear we won't be able to support our NHS, benefits, Pensions etc. So you brexiters who voted to leave out of jealousy, enjoy scrounging off bins.

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the naive folk who are already struggling who think the only way is up for them after this.

Oh, how very wrong you are user1456whatever.

the simplistic and abominable notions leavers have been led to believe.

I haven't been led to believe anything. Believe it or not, many Leave voters informed themselves of the facts, and chose to disbelieve the simplistic stuff that was being pedalled by the Remain side. Such as - 'we can stay in the EU and reform it'. Er, no. Any person with half a brain could see that was not the case - Juncker told us that was not the case.

Honestly the thing that bothers me about leavers is that they are completely unable to defend themselves based on logical arguments.

I've not seen any.

We haven't even had 24 hours since the result and already the £350m claim is being ditched.

The claims about clamping down on immigration. Again brexiters are reigning back on that.

Hohoho this isn't even funny. They made these claims to get your leave vote.

These claims are being watered down already.

Yet we will be left with economic turmoil because of the lies.

That's why people are so so so angry.

It isn't like a general election.

Man alive.

The NHS is hugely supported by immigrants - whether from the EU or elsewhere. We now know that the leave campaign lied about the £350 million extra. Even if they hadn't, the NHS will cease to exist without the immigrants that hold it together.

Goodbye NHS, I'm off to Scotland

under is right, but I know loads of NHS that thought they were getting £350m.
Naive yes, but they were hopeful.
NHS and education are my biggest fears.
You've put everything in through hands of her tories.

OMG user so you blame the EU for a) Syria b) BRITISH employers acting illegally c) BRITISH landlords acting illegally

You think no longer being part of ,say, the working time directive is GOOD for low paid British workers

You know leaving the EU wont have any impact on immigration and refugees right?

I am horrified by the vitriol that is bring thrown by people who do jig like the final decision.

So am I.

Isn't the French policing of Calais a separate agreement? It's not part of the EU rules.

It is separate, but drawn up as two fellow EU members. Chances are it would have continued if we stayed. They have no incentive now to keep it going, it's very unpopular in France, we are now rather unpopular in France, and from next year we will have to deal with refugees directly in England.

I voted leave to tell the political elite that I was angry by voting for those well known none establishment comprehensive educated working class lads Boris and Farage?

Talking peace
Precisely how has your children's future been screwed. I genuinely do not understand as I don't feel my childrens' future is screwed. Did I miss something?

This is the finest example of goady-fuckery I've seen in a while. I started off thinking the OP was just a little - well - dense. But subsequent and ongoing posts confirm that it is only acting dense with a view to a reaction.

I don't think this is a 'new' user.

It is not tantamount to fascism to object to the downright lies that Leave told the public. People apparently genuinely believed that £350m would be put back into the NHS. On the morning of Leave success - Nigel Farage admits that won't happen.

More Austerity, and a recession expected- enjoy it. Plus Scotland are probably going to leave us.

Richard Branson owns lots of the NHS now - that happened while everyone was getting hot under the collar of Polish plumbers ...

Whereas all the Brexiters are thick underclass bottle hurlers?

Yep.

I am Welsh. I voted to stay. Overwhelming gutted that my country men and women swayed the vote. Wales gets more funding than anyone from the EU. The definition of ignorance surely? Clearly this demonstrates that those who voted leave just don't "get it". Absolutely gutted

OP
Stupid is as stupid does.You voted leave, now you are looking for validation and a pat. You won't get it from me.

I love MN and FB can be entertaining but my oh my, how unintelligent, unaware, uneducated voices travel further than they ought to. I might need to log off for some days months form all online social media, I simply cannot bear the mind numbing noisy simple mindedness of leavers.

However, I will say it again, cameron and our politicians knew that segments of the British public have no idea about politics yet this massive decision was handed over to these people. That's not democracy thats criminal neglect of the public's welfare and security.