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I want people to tell me why they voted #leave

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AliceScarlett · 24/06/2016 05:12

I'm feeling pretty shocked and scared right now.

Why did you vote for brexit?

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user7755 · 24/06/2016 18:22

Grass - That's not the case at all, it's just that people can see that it could be a hell of a lot worse. You just have to look around to see that.

80schild · 24/06/2016 18:23

For a long time I was on the fence.

For a short time I was leave for the fundamental reason the EU is corrupt and I thought we could do better without it (nothing to do with immigration) and because in the long term I think the economy may be better.

In the end I voted remain because I don't think our country is strong enough to deal with coming out at the moment. We have just been through one recession and quite frankly I don't have the nerve for another. At another point in time, it might be the right decision.

derxa · 24/06/2016 18:24

It isn't going to work. We are all going to suffer the appalling political and economic consequences - of which many of the leave voters appear to have been ignorant - for a generation at least. Until such time as we can renogotiate with the EU.

In the mean time we will get used to higher unemployment, interest rates, loss of business, and investment, higher prices on imported goods, further squeeze on public services including education and health

But that will always be the fault of the Brexiteers. No-one will forget that It is a terrible result. I'm shocked and disgusted all over again.

Lenazabaglione · 24/06/2016 18:27

My vote for leave had nothing to do with immigration either. I worked as a Civil Servant for 22 years, under both of the main parties, both were as bad as the other. What I took away from it though, was that local knowledge is absolutely key to good management and I don't believe we can be run effectively from Brussels.

Grassgreendashhabi · 24/06/2016 18:32

User - that's what I e been doing along with the other 17million plus people.

threecee · 24/06/2016 18:32

Why do you want a general election ? do you seriously think Corbyn stands a chance ?

KissMyArse · 24/06/2016 18:32

If MPs have the balls they can reject the Referendum result and vote to remain in the EU.

Yes it would be political suicide but if they truly believe remain is best for the country (rather than for themselves) then they should be prepared to fall on their swords. We voted these MPs in to make informed decisions on our behalf so they should step up and do the job they were elected to do.

Boysdontcry · 24/06/2016 18:33

The remainers contempt for democracy

KissMyArse · 24/06/2016 18:36

Why do you want a general election ? do you seriously think Corbyn stands a chance ?

From what I've read, if a party electioneered on the basis that we would remain in the EU (and they were voted in) then they would have the legal right to keep Britain in the EU irrespective of the referendum result.

buffalogrumble · 24/06/2016 18:40

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user7755 · 24/06/2016 18:56

that's what I e been doing along with the other 17million plus people

I mean beyond your own, individual experience. Look at what is happening in other countries, with empathy rather than looking inwardly to find out what more you can do for yourself.

Because the people that I know who voted out, did so because they were only thinking about themselves in the here and now.

It's been enlightening talking to some people on here who have explained in a very measured way why they think the EU doesn't work, but I haven't heard anyone talk yet (although I may have missed it) about why leaving is best for our children / grandchildren / the rest of the country, continent and world. The arguments have been either why the EU is broken or what a problem immigration is.

IndridCold · 24/06/2016 19:03

It is in the Lisbon Treaty (rules drawn up by the EU itself, to govern itself and signed by all members) that if a member state wishes to leave, it is up to them to notify the EU and evoke Article 50 of that treaty to commence exit talks.

On the very first day after the vote, the EU big-wigs have torn up their own rules, and insisted on trying to bundle the UK out of the back door, whilst simultaneously trying to rush through new rules to stop any other member states from following suit.

Why so many people seem to really believe that the best thing for the future of the U.K. would be staying in this bullying and un-democratic alliance, is baffling. Even those I know who voted to remain (including DH) are still deeply sceptical of the organisation, and were very torn about how to vote.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/06/2016 19:03

I think it is sad but understandable that people saw immigrants apparently undercutting their wages and blamed the immigrants. The people who were really to blame were the people who were employing those immigrants on terms that contravened employment law (including EU employment law). Set one lot of exploited people against another whilst someone else makes a profit.

KissMyArse · 24/06/2016 19:40

For me it was a very close run thing as to which way I would vote. I did as much research about the potential effects of leaving or remaining as I could. For me it was never about immigration because I was aware that very little would change either way and it's never been a concern for me anyway.

In the end I voted to leave. Today I'm starting to wish I'd abstained.

milliemolliemou · 24/06/2016 21:37

math - and the referendum makes that different how?

Cornishclio · 24/06/2016 21:43

I find it amazing the number of leave voters who have said they didn't expect us to come out? Really - why vote that way then? If enough people vote that way then this is the result. Or talking about something which is nothing to do with the EU or claims they have their country back. . Please!!!

One thing I wondered though when Gordon Brown stepped into Blairs shoes a lot of people said we should have had a GE. If Canerons replacement calls a GE and a party runs on a mandate of remaining in EU can the referendum result be ignored? Never going to happen I know sigh :(

ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:45

If MPs have the balls they can reject the Referendum result and vote to remain in the EU

Yes it would be political suicide but if they truly believe remain is best for the country

No more than what we're now faced with.

GingerIvy · 24/06/2016 21:51

They could reject it. And make a complete mockery of democracy in the process. And alienate a large portion of the country.

Let's look at it this way. If remain had won, and the MPs rejected the result and opted for leave anyway, would you feel the government had betrayed the country? Would you be happy? Think long and hard about this - because calls for a new referendum, calls for the MPs to reject the results, these things all chip away at democracy. Do you really think that's a good idea? Yes, you're unhappy with the results. A lot of us were unhappy that the conservatives won last GE. A lot were unhappy about the Scotland referendum failing. But that's the process. You vote, you bitch or cheer, then the country needs to pull together and move on.

ChipStix · 24/06/2016 21:54

Do you think Ireland will attempt a referendum on reunification?

ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:56

And make a complete mockery of democracy in the process

That's already been done.

We're leaving the EU, with disastrous consequences, on a majority of 4% of voters whose ignorance, as shown on here, is breathtaking.

That ain't democracy, it's just a fuck up.

SouperSal · 24/06/2016 21:57

Why would anything of changed staying in EU

They might have enforced proper use of the word "of", for a start.

ChipStix · 24/06/2016 21:57

Abd the Germans, Italians and Dutch who are my friends and neighbours are actually quite upset. Genuinely upset. It has huge ramifications fur them.

fassone · 24/06/2016 21:58

Chipstix not a hope. Why would the Republic want to take on Northern Ireland and what it would cost to fund?

ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 21:58

Do you think Ireland will attempt a referendum on reunification?

Yes, and good luck to them. I'd like to see a united Ireland. And an independent Scotland too. England has basically voted itself out of world affairs, there's no reason for Ireland and Scotland to follow.

SouperSal · 24/06/2016 21:59

Meanwhile Wales is utterly fucked.