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To feel so upset about jo cox?

333 replies

Unpropergrammer · 16/06/2016 23:01

I didn't know of her before today but this news has devestated me for some reason. Watching the news I couldn't stop crying.

I just keep thinking of her poor kids.

OP posts:
stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 22:31

And yeah her kids . I spent all of yesterday thinking about them and how they must be right now and how it will affect them as they grow into women . I am relieved it's not just me that's gutted about this

And I won't forget it in a week - this is a major defining moment in our country - for so many reasons

swamitjanet · 17/06/2016 22:38

I think it can scare you when you feel so uncharacteristically upset about a stranger. It's good to talk about it, to say "I feel fucking sad about this and it's really unlike me to be crying about someone I've never met", I think it's good she started this thread as there are a lot of us feeling like that.

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 22:41

OP please do not think that the few vitriolic posters are important - they are not

If you need help please as previous posters have said seek it. BUT you are not wrong in your empathy. Jo Cox's death has triggered many feelings in many people. It has also started to empower people who have previously felt they shouldn't speak out like me

You are among friends. Ignore those who are not helpful

MuddhaOfSuburbia · 17/06/2016 22:43

I read on pages and the really shitty thing about this thread is that I read the text on the left hand side and see Jo Cox' face on the right (under Blog of the Day)

so on the one side we have a young woman in public service who has just been assassinated. In broad daylight, in the street, going about her work. On the other side mumsnetters telling other mumsnetters off about how they should feel, and the Correct Way to express their grief/upset

no rule book has been written yet on how to respond to a case like this. Reason: this is OFF THE FUCKING SCALE unprecendented

I find it devastating. That isn't ghoulish, or grief tourism, or making it all about me. Someone upthread mentioned their grandparents (in the context of 'keep calm and carry on')- my GPs were Labour activists all their lives. My Grandad fought Moseley's blackshirts, and then served in the merchant navy; my Nana stayed at home through the Blitz.They saw a lot of terrible, terrible things. But I am glad they're not alive to see this. They would have been utterly grief stricken.

Newes · 17/06/2016 22:47

Any news on the 77yr old man who tried to stop the attack?

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 22:49

Not yet - 77 though Shock

Even that's making me cry as my dad died a few weeks ago aged 70

I am sure he will be honoured for what he did - sit tight

swamitjanet · 17/06/2016 22:52

I hope he pulls through, what a brave man.

ssd · 17/06/2016 22:53

I think he was injured too?

hellish.

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 22:56

MuddhaOfSuburbia

I agree I am about to give up even MN as I feel the vitriol generally across any contentious posts is terrible. Hyperbole and no care or consideration. Such a shame as we can unite and make this country better

But the OP deserves help in standing against armchair warriors who seem to enjoy hurting ( and I say that literally) those who feel deeply about their feelings and life

Newes · 17/06/2016 22:56

He was injured yes. As the circumstances are not yet clear it is difficult to say with certainty how severely, but what struck me was the intervention aspect. So brave.

DoinItFine · 17/06/2016 22:57

The banality of evil.

This thread is living proof of that.

Newes · 17/06/2016 23:00

If we're not for ye, we're against ye, Doin?

Bollocks.

ArmySal · 17/06/2016 23:03

Well said, Muddha.

MP butchered on the streets, young mother & wife?!

Too right it's upsetting, shame on those repeatedly hammering the OP, even after she has been on to defend herself.

God love her and her family.

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 23:06

Perhaps some posters should find a local playground and enjoy awful play fighting whilst the grown ups contemplate how we can make our society a bit better

I can not comprehend why posters feel it is appropriate to carry out swipes when a compassionate woman who went to refugee camps, who thought all people should be welcomed has been brutally murdered in the street. Where is your compassion?

swamitjanet · 17/06/2016 23:07

Newes we get it, and I applaud your ability to feel EXACTLY the same level of empathy for every tragedy. Maybe leave it now?

DoinItFine · 17/06/2016 23:09

I think there is something deeply wrong with you if you want to have a fight about Jo Cox's murder and how people feel about it.

Not necessarily something wrong with you emotionally, but something wrong with you ethically.

To come to one of these threads to snipe and complain.

It's just gross.

Like you are just a welt on the arse of humanity.

A suppurating wound of spite and hatefulness.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 23:14

DoinGrin you have a way with words

Sorry but I need a grin as reading this thread and some of the comments is off the Fucking scale depressing - fuck me

Newes · 17/06/2016 23:16

Ummmm, yes, Doin

Hmm
DoinItFine · 17/06/2016 23:17

how we can make our society a bit better

How can we?

Where do we start?

I thought the #ThankYourMP hashtag was not bad as a next morning response.

And just generally supporting our MPs, even if we don't support them politically.

I think suspending the campaigning for a couple of days was right. And it matteref that the Leave campaign moved first on that.

But that's earmy days stuff.

We've still got a massive election next week.

What next?

Not in terms of how we vote, but how we conduct ourselves during and after.

And beyond that?

Newes · 17/06/2016 23:18

Swamitjanet, don't you? How odd. And a bit depressing.

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 23:19

Doinitfine

“Let no (wo)man pull you so low as to hate him.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

I think we give some people wood they just light it. We can rise above and work towards the aims Jo Cox's Husband wants www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/17/mainstream-politicians-clueless-on-how-to-deal-with-migration-debate-says-jo-coxs-husband

swamitjanet · 17/06/2016 23:24

Newes you realise it's not physically possible to feel the same about every sad thing that happens? Right?

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 23:27

Why don't we just start talking out. I mean properly to friends, to family. I didn't thinking oh it's everyone's choice blah blah but some people really have believed the immigration rants by some politicians and that is the reason and the only one they are voting - including a lot of immigrants I know which is something no one talks about (shut the door jack I'm alright)

I have not tried to influence anyone. But now I will. Not just on the referendum But on local matters. I want to get involved. I have to at least try to help our country mend this open sore

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 23:37

Isn't is funny - when posters are not being negative the thread slows down. Sleep well OP x

DoinItFine · 17/06/2016 23:41

Thanks Showme :) Good counsel.

I have to at least try to help our country mend this open sore

Yes.

I suppose the very least we must do is care and speak up. And not hate.

And believe we can make a difference. And make it.

No cynicism.