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To feel so upset about jo cox?

333 replies

Unpropergrammer · 16/06/2016 23:01

I didn't know of her before today but this news has devestated me for some reason. Watching the news I couldn't stop crying.

I just keep thinking of her poor kids.

OP posts:
StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/06/2016 21:46

I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of what I've written on this thread.

flippinada · 17/06/2016 21:47

I don't think you deserve to be rounded on for that Shadows. It needed to be said.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/06/2016 21:53

You shouldn't be rounded on Shadows, your opinion is valid, as is that of others who state their's.

ShadowsCollideWithKittens · 17/06/2016 21:54

That's fine, SanDiego. As I said, I'm not from the UK so it's not really my place to weigh in. And I certainly wasn't specifically singling you out. I just find it very sad that a thread that was started in tribute to a wonderful woman (whatever the intentions of the OP, be they genuine upset or mawkish attention seeking) has descended into nastiness and sniping.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 21:54

I think it's completely understandable to find this shocking and harrowing

And for Fucks sake - chastising people for wanting to talk about it ? This site is so heartless - some people will naturally be upset and yeah - accuse them of grief Porn Angry

Newes · 17/06/2016 21:54

Suck up to Worra? Lol. Nope.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 21:56

Shadow said it far more articulately that

Really fucking disappointing behaviour from some people - of whom I expect better frankly

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/06/2016 22:00

Who's sucking up to Worra?

MuddhaOfSuburbia · 17/06/2016 22:01

I agree with you Shadows

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 22:02

Wow

I hardly ever post but am prepared to put myself out there in love and peace

Can I introduce some to the concept of empathy. Definition: the ability to share someone else's feelings or experiences by imagining what it would be like to be in that person's situation

So the OP is highly emphatic to Jo Cox, to her husband, to her children, to her friends and those who helped a dying woman after she was shot and stabbed in the streets. As am I and many others.

If you are not then that is fine it is the way you are- but why let your hearts and heads feel the need to shut down those who are?

I can not comprehend the arguments against loving and caring feelings - especially if when these feelings are part of contemplation about awful situations

AllThePrettySeahorses · 17/06/2016 22:02

Spot on, Shadows. Sadly, though, it seems everyone's opinion is valid except the OP's.

Northernlurker · 17/06/2016 22:11

Good grief I can't believe there are still posters who find it so important to tell somebody off. What the hell is wrong with you?

This wasn't an accident, this wasn't an illness. This was a highly violent attack on a defenceless woman in public office. It should upset us all. We should all be shattered and horrified that such a thing happened.

Another poster mentioned Dan Jarvis. I'm not surprised he is taking a stand on remaining publicly visible but people should remember that two of his three children lost their mum about the age Jo Cox's kids are now. They have a stepmother but he's their only parent and there's no way at all he or any mp should have to feel they put their safety at risk to serve us.

SabineUndine · 17/06/2016 22:14

To add my pennyworth, I don't usually go in much for public mass grieving but I look at the example of Jo, and the kind of person she was, and think if someone leads as useful a life as hers, and something like this happens to them, what hope is there? Really?

IonaMumsnet · 17/06/2016 22:17

Evening folks. Just a polite reminder that we're all about peace and love here, especially today. We know that the original post was asking whether the OP was unreasonable to be upset but it would be horrible to see this discussion turn into a bunfight. Thanks.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/06/2016 22:18

I do have empathy and am a very sympathetic , caring person. I feel irritated by those who think their grief; for a stranger who they may have never heard of beforehand , is more important than those who also started threads about the same feeling earlier.

Anyway I'll bow out now.

Newes · 17/06/2016 22:18

Confused No one is telling anyone off, Northernlurker.

The responses on this thread are mainly about the appropriateness of

a) posting a duplicate thread about a major and tragic event.
b) putting a spin on it to turn it round to the OP, which is a bit distasteful

And some rather lovely posts about Jo Cox. Which is rather the point, don't you think?

JenniferYellowHat1980 · 17/06/2016 22:19

Shadows, I utterly agree. I have been feeling much the same as OP and might myself have posted similar had I not been so busy. I can't believe the disdain for someone expressing their distress at a national tragedy. Horrid.

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 22:24

I don't think there can ever be too many posts about a woman who by all accounts seemed so dedicated to making the world a better place. Which ultimately I think 99% of humanity want

And awful murders of young women in the street doing their job surely affects every one of us - how could it not. I don't think empathy is a spin. It's a feeling

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 22:26

That's the painful part - she was a good person trying to make a difference - I have read a few people say that they wish they could have her energy and drive to make things better

She was clearly a very good person and there are sadly too few of them . And then for this to happen to her it's harrowing

I am also really upset by this - and I also struggle to discuss it with people in RL

But you can even fucking discuss it online as you get accused of mawkish grief tourism

MerchantofVenice · 17/06/2016 22:26

Shadows is right.

Who cares if there are other threads? OP was upset. She started a thread. Don't like it? Don't read it.

I felt same as OP. I was surprised how much I cried about this. Lots of us feel as she does. It's good to talk about it.

It's not good to police other people's grief or the way in which they deal with it.

Newes · 17/06/2016 22:27

It does affect all of us, Show. We just express it in different ways, I guess.

swamitjanet · 17/06/2016 22:29

They just started talking about it on the last leg and I started welling up! It's the senselessness of it, the complete randomness and the thought of two kids suddenly not having their mum. Sometimes these things just touch you somehow and you can't help why.

All the people on here getting on their high horse and attacking the OP can fuck off tbh.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2016 22:29

anyway let's talk about her and not this thread - MN are right .

Showmethewaytogohome · 17/06/2016 22:29

It isn't mawkish at all. It is human. And awful but I think it is good that we can feel empathy

In that we can see it is not right
It is not the way we want to live.

We can feel there is a better way
We need to find it

anotherbusymum14 · 17/06/2016 22:30

I don't understand why this OP is being attacked here, and no I'm now choosing not to read the whole thread.
Based on the OPs first few comments what struck me was if you are a mum and have kids yourself and relate to the deceased from that point of view (being a mum of small children) and if you have anxiety or depression then yes hearing about her devastating death could trigger a real fear in that person (OP). It's not selfish, it's actually very real. Try and lay off each other and maybe offer support. OP if you truly feel shaken by the MPs death and are still thinking about it over the next few days then maybe go see your GP. That will probably help.

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