.. to think that "I fear for my sons" and ..

[BertrandRussell]

"I feel sorry for my sons" are just new ways of saying "I hate feminists"?

But that's been well known for years Jasonandyawegunorts some feminists really can't stand white men who have been well educated.

No Bertrand, but it sounds like just the sort of thing people say when a boy is sexually abused by a woman."

You did notice my careful use of pronouns, didn't you?

"but I know it's a fact that some feminists hate white privileged males with a passion so maybe that's why?"

Fact? References, please!

Oh BertrandRussell please don't make me laugh by pretending man hating feminists don't exist. They do, we both know it.

I've never met one. I've been told about them of course..........

Bertrand, what was your reason for responding to my post if not to disagree with its sentiment that hiding one's criminality behind a nice facade isn't gender specific?

I thought you may have missed the fact that I had deliberately chosen to use gender neutral pronouns.

I've never met one. I've been told about them of course..........

A couple of people on this thread alone pretty much crucified a couple of posters for asking for clarification, because they assumed they were male.

So just being goady then?

I think a lot of people think that women who don't centre and prioritise men must hate them. I think a lot of men are so used to be treated preferentially that they are shocked and upset when that doesn't happen and feel as though they've been badly treated. I see that a LOT on MN, when a man strides on to a thread points out that he's a man at the beginning of his post and then starts insulting everyone when he gets the the usual MN response.

"So just being goady then?"

Sorry- I have no idea what you mean.

YABVU.. In fact you seem rather determined to create resentment between people OP. I wonder why?

I think a lot of people think that women who don't centre and prioritise men must hate them.

This.

Do name names, VoyageofDad.

YABU based on the vitriol aimed at men in general and not arsehole human beings in particular.

Sorry should end '...on Mumsnet alone'

By the same token, do feel free to name those posters that:

think that women who don't centre and prioritise men must hate them.

I really can't think of a single poster on this thread that has made this assumption.

Anyhoo, it was a goady OP with no context.

People who say they 'feel sorry for' or 'fear for' their sons are not just trying to say "I hate feminists".

If they really felt that way, then I'm sure they wouldn't suddenly feel an urge to minimise offence by finding a different way to say it.

They would just say:
I hate feminists
And be done with it, surely?

"I see that a LOT on MN, when a man strides on to a thread points out that he's a man at the beginning of his post and then starts insulting everyone when he gets the the usual MN response."

I'd also like to see the names of the posters who do this. Can't say I've ever come across them in all the years I've been here.

It was a very goady OP with no context and I was offended by it as a mum of sons. I also read it as a feminist telling me, a woman, how to feel about my children (how's that for a feminist interpretation?!) Hence my grumpy first post on this thread.

Sorry- I have no idea what you mean.

Likewise Bertrand. You seem to have assumed my post was aimed at you.

Of course, I'm just mimicking the goady little game you are playing.

I'm sorry, Slarti, I thought you were responding to this post of mine

""I'm sure there are all sorts of criminals of both gender who have perfected a nice persona."

But there aren't many crimes where the perpetrator and their supporters can say, with wide eyed innocence "I didn't realize that was burglary/murder/arson. I thought they wanted me to steal their stuff/kill them/burn their house down"............"
and had missed that I used ambiguous pronouns.