To not stop saying that menstruation is a women's issue?

[HermioneWeasley]

Despite the fact that Twitter loons insist that it is triggering for trans women and erasing trans men?

On behalf of the millions and millions of women and girls suffering due to periods, and lack of access to sanpro and toilets (a FAR bigger human rights issue than where people with gender dysphoria pee) , I will keep saying this is a women's issue.

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"Not getting my periods"

Menstuarion is a female issue because while not all women menstruate all the time only women menstruate.

That flow-chart is dangerous. The words 'Women's health' and 'Reproductive health' are in no way synonymous. There are many differences between the diseases men and women suffer.

And women's health issues are already jeapordised because the vast majority of research carried out by pharmaceutical companies is done on men and women are assumed to react in the same way, and it has been shown recently, that that assumption can be dangerous.

It's a pity that tiny minority, who are so very angry over something that is in no way the fault of biological women, can have such a negative impact on the very group of people that they aspire to join.

I posted this on another thread

I still think its apt

*I find this "some women dont have periods" crap fucking insulting, its always said in a snide point scoring way by men

The vast majority of girls await their periods with excitment (going to be a grownup....thats soon fades) and/or fear

Some wait years, their friends getting them first and wondering where theirs is being asked if they lose their temper "ooh are you on your period"

If you dont get your period you have invasive tests becuase there is something WRONG With you

The medical proffession do tests and shove things where you would rather not have something shoved and give you medicine becasue there is something WRONG

There is something WRONG with a biological woman who doesnt have periods, ds (male) will not undergo those tests as his period will never turn up and the doctor does not see the point , dd (female)may well have to as there is something WRONG*

Oh man!!!!

Should be some men....not all men obviously

As a menopausal woman, I rejoice in being period free after 40 years at the menstrual coalface. Triggering it ain't. Trust me, I don't feel left out.

Replacing the word "women" with "people" however makes me feel sick.

That link above, it's shockingly self centred. He has children so why is he bleating about being infertile? And I'm saying he. Not that I give a shit about pronouns in themselves, but because a human who procreates by sperm production is a man, in old money.

Haven't you heard ladies? It's not called your period anymore, it's now called your "cis privilege". The act of shedding one's endometrium in a miniature gusset-based apocalypse is something you should all now be ashamed of, not for the comforting and familiar reason of it being dirty and gross (ah, those were the days), but because its existence hurts the feelz of certain trans women and makes them feel excluded from womanhood. Look at us cliquey witches, deliberately bleeding and then discussing it just to upset people! We deserve everything we get (rape, violence, harassment etc). Apparently.

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I agree purple, the fact is maybe if you are triggering over something that is a biological fact of nature then you might need some kind of therapy treatment to learn to cope with this instead of trying to vanish if with new words

Has anyone seen the South Park episode where Mr Garrison gets a sex change?

DOCTOR
Mmrs. Garrison, you can't have an abortion.

MRS. GARRISON
Don't you tell me what I can and can't do with my body! A woman has a right to choose!

DOCTOR
No, I mean you're physically unable to have an abortion, because you can't get pregnant.

MRS. GARRISON
But I missed my period.

DOCTOR
You can't have periods either. You had a sex change, Mr. Garrison, but you don't have ovaries or a womb. You don't produce eggs.

MRS. GARRISON
But I paid five thousand dollars to be a woman. This would mean I I'm not really a woman. I, I'm just a... a I'm just a guy with a mutilated penis!

Yanbu. Not at all.

YANBU. I really hope this doesn't seep more into official areas, particularly healthcare. We don't do women any favours by pretending our biology and everything that follows from it is disconnected from being a female human in the real physical world. Direct, clear language that occasionally generalises to the point that a tiny minority aren't explicitly included is preferable to obscure fluffy language that gets into circular descriptions for fear of naming a plain causal link. Who menstruates? Menstruators. Who has a uterus? Uterus-bearers. Describe being female without being allowed to use or imply the words female or woman or be branded a bigot. No, thank you.

So what would happen if we just keep using the right words to describe women's bodies and bodily functions? It's not against the law is it?

Or maybe just not yet ....

Where I work there are a lot more women than men, and only 2 small toilets. One of the women moved a sanitary bin into the men's toilet because sometimes there is a queue and only a few men, and it's only a bin anyway. We didn't ask the men if they minded. And none of the men have ever seemed to notice or say anything about it. This is why I don't understand why you don't just do something instead of making a HUGE fuss about something.
Imagine the emails going around about sanitary bins before hand if we had announced our intentions.
If public places feel they want to oblige and stick a little bin in a toilet just in case a trans man might use the loo THEN JUST DO THAT

The vast majority of the world's population will get a shock, if and when this language abuse is written into law. Because they don't buy into this shit, and don't even know it's going on. They don't care, because it doesn't directly affect them. Yet.

fieldofpurpleflowers YES!

Who claims to be triggered when you say "menstruation is a women's issue" OP? Do you have a link?

I don't think it is a women's issue.
Although men do not menstruate, if they are any kind of a partner they are supportive, go to the shop to buy tampons/paracetamol/make hot water bottles/take the kids to school/make the dinner/remind me that red wine is not a good idea as it makes the pain worse and any number of things to try and help. If you are TTC they will be just as upset as you when the damned thing arrives signalling another wasted month, or if you are not TTC biting their nails alongside you.

This equally applied to any partner, whatever gender they are including trans.

So whilst I agree that it is a nonsense to make this a trans issue for all the reasons given above, it is not exclusively a women's issue, any more than prostate cancer is a man's issue.

My husband plays no part in my menstruation, Calais.

Is childbirth and the physical risks also a male issue to you?

Partners can support and sympathise without feeling jealous or "othered" that they will not / cannot actually experience it for themselves, Calais...
Which appears to be what this triggering bollocks is about.

Oh, lookie, yet another trans-obsessive thread. Do get over it.

You can't get confused about support of female health and biology and using language to de-feminise periods. Supportive men would not want that themselves either anyway

Why are you on it then?

I am ambivalent on trans issues, lately I feel some are going too far and watering down women's issues. A lot of the new wave trans activists seem to get so caught up in being "trans" that they never just keep their heads down and get on with the day to day of being a woman/man.

My brother is FTM and he has said "why the fuck don't these people just shut up and get on with being a woman/man, that's what I'm doing".

He doesn't piss and moan about never getting morning wood, or what have you. He wants kids one day (and would make a lovely dad) but he explicitly rejects the notion of getting pregnant because that's not what men do. He stopped himself having periods because men don't have periods. When my sister and I talk periods/bras around him he doesn't interject with "EXCUSE ME I HAD PERIODS AND BOOBS SO WHY AREN'T YOU INCLUDING ME IN THIS HOW DARE YOU CALL THIS GIRL TALK FROTH FROTH".