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AIBU?

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To be surprised that foetal gender stereotyping is a thing?

131 replies

MrsPickwick · 24/05/2016 16:13

Or maybe I’m just naive. DH and I are expecting a baby boy in September. When we found out he was a boy, we thought a plus was that we wouldn’t have to be constantly combating all the lazy sexism we that is directed at girls from every angle. With boys, the stereotyping is still very much there of course, but we somehow thought of it as more benign and easier to bat away.

But it’s already starting to grate on us, and our baby hasn’t even seen the outside of my uterus yet. Example: my mother asked about his movements and I commented that he’s more active after I’ve eaten, to which she replied ‘he’s a typical boy – loves his food’. (So I suppose a female foetus would naturally demur from exhibiting biological responses to the stimulus of calories being transferred to her through her umbilical cord Hmm). There have also been comments about how he 'can't wait to get on the football pitch' and so on, though maybe she’d say that about a girl too (though I doubt it). The in-laws are equally guilty of comments like this – boys are like this, girls are like that etc (I keep having to remind myself that they’re talking about foetuses and newborns).

Similarly, a friend of mine who has been having trouble breastfeeding her newborn was told by her health visitor that the reason she’s struggling is because her baby is a boy and therefore ‘lazy’. I’ve heard of cases where reduced foetal movement has been put down to the foetus being a ‘lazy boy’ too.

AIBU to find it irritating? I know the comments on their own are silly and harmless, but there’s a drip-drip effect going on. Already certain expectations of him are shifting into position.

WIBU to just direct my mother and in laws to Delusions of Gender and related material, or would that seem uppity / precious / hectoring? Both DH and I have called out these attitudes before, many times, but it never seems to get through.

Also, please share any examples of similar, it would help to know it’s not just us Smile

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RiverTam · 26/05/2016 19:29

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My final input - it's SEX! Not gender! You find out (or not) the baby's SEX. When did we replace 'sex' with 'gender'? It's soooooooo annoying!

Waterhill · 26/05/2016 19:31

I've had it every pregnancy... 3 boys; just had a girl. It's annoying, but I can't be bothered to argue over it...

Agrippina90 · 26/05/2016 21:11

Everyone on this thread dismissing or minimising those 'throwaway comments' is part of the problem. The suggestion that you'll make yourself unhappy if you don't ignore them is particularly insidious. Can people really not see where that leads? If people like the OP - who can understand and articulate why these comments are wrong - don't challenge them, then who will?

EBearhug · 26/05/2016 21:35

My final input - it's SEX! Not gender! You find out (or not) the baby's SEX. When did we replace 'sex' with 'gender'?

Not sure, but at work, I can't talk about sex discrimination, only gender discrimination. The filters block sex. Sometimes I think about challenging it, but then I'd have to find out who sets the filters and so on.

(And there was the time I got them to unblock a Japanese women's network site, only to discover it was blocked because it really was porn, rather than a professional women's network... So I am not quite ready to highlight my name in that respect again.)

Bails2014 · 26/05/2016 21:37

I love a bit of gender stereotyping, I have a boy, he's only one but he loves cars, tractors, farm animals and getting dirty.

Which is a huge relief because so does his mother.

RiverTam · 26/05/2016 21:40

But gender discrimination is a nonsense, if you're actually talking about discrimination against women. What is it's a butch lesbian with a complaint? Is she feminine or masculine? Or frankly any woman who doesn't look like she's been styled by Kirsty Alsopp? It's a meaningless term and shouldn't be used in any official capacity unless what's being addressed is discrimination against a TG person. But then that's going straight back to the current trans debate (which is of course about transgenderism, not transsexuals, as the majority of trans people do not and will not have an actual sex change) which is centred on gender stereotyping.

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