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To leave my drunk vomiting crying husband to it?

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Whyiseverynameitryinuse · 22/05/2016 01:47

Husband has been in a grumpy mood (swearing at the sat nav, overreacting to annoyances) all day. This evening he drank a bottle of red wine (minus one half glass I drank) then started on the whisky.

Then he started criticising me. I figured it was mostly the drink and tried not to get drawn, just saying I didn't want to talk about now and leaving the room. Apparently he then drank another half the bottle of whisky.

Next thing I know I hear him crying in the bathroom, so I go up to see if he's ok, and end up patting his back while he throws up. I try to look after him, and then he starts laying into me calling me a 'bitch' etc. I tell him if he doesn't stop attacking me I'll leave. He says that's 'emotional blackmail', then starts insulting me and I leave. The crying starts again, so I go back up. He cries about his (deceased) parents, I hug him,comfort him, he talks about life being too hard and wanting to die. I tell him I love him, and he has lots of friends and family that love him.

Then he starts attacking me again calling me an evil bitch who's ruining his life. I told him to please stop, but he wouldn't, so I said I was leaving but if he needed me to call. He said nobody that loved him could leave him like that and it proved what a horrible person I was.

I'm downstairs but I can hear him being sick and crying. I feel awful, I don't want to leave him suffering, but I don't want to be sworn and shouted at either. I'm terrified he'll hurt himself. Am I being a terrible person staying down here til he becomes less belligerent?

OP posts:
Marigold76 · 25/05/2016 14:32

I really hope you pop back to read this thread OP. I've been reading this with a growing sense of unease as I recognise so much of this. Any kind of abuse starts somewhere, and it's rarely as cut and dried as one night, early in the relationship he lets you have it and then it's regular, repeated incidents. I was with my ex for a year before anything major kicked off. I now realise there were signs before, but I didn't recognise them and put it down to stress/loving me so intensely/not felt this way about anyone before/childhood trauma etc etc I also briefly considered MH. In the end, He was a very troubled, very unhappy, narcissistic, mysoginistic, sociopathic person who just hated everyone but played the game so well everyone liked him! (Call it MH if you like, but he was very very manipulative and knew exactly what he was doing)
It started harmlessly enough, for example: buying me clothes 'as a gift' which I took as thoughtful. He was in fact, dressing me in what he considered appropriate clothing. Then he would sulk if I wore something he deemed inappropriate. Then sulking progressed to drunken admonishing, then silent treatment, then bullying and crying and threats. Over 12 years it progressed to outright violence, physical, emotional and verbal. one minute he was screaming at me and throwing me around our house, then he would pretend like nothing had happened. If I called him on it he would initially turn on the sheepish charm while minimising the incident and saying how he loved me so much it hurt him Hmm if I didn't accept that, it went straight back to sulks, silent treatment, and finally, back to violence. Which of course, was my fault because I'd made him so vulnerable and then trashed his heartfelt apologies. I left a few times, he stepped up his game (counselling etc) but it never lasted. I felt so invested in the relationship and thought I was being the strong one by bouncing back after every fight and 'supporting' him that I couldn't see I was being manipulated. It can take years before you realise you've been duped. IF he is indeed this type of person- I doubt he will ever go counselling. He will make the right noises but in the end, he won't lift a finger to change the situation. He will put the onus on you to sort it out and this will be your pattern. Sorry for long post: I know it's not about me! I am hoping you recognise some of this and get out,out,out. I am not judging you OP. But I am willing you with every bone in my body to look out for yourself. If he loves you, he will listen, he will do more than 'try' and he will get off his bum and book counselling sessions TODAY and he will attend them! If he is as above, he will do nothing and you will know. Flowers and huge amounts of hugs for you X

mathanxiety · 25/05/2016 18:48

Janecc -- I did not lose a parent young, but I have a family of cousins who lost both parents to cancer within three years of each other. The youngest was five and the first parent to die was diagnosed a few weeks after he was born. They were 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15... (ten children in all, large Irish family). None of them is an abusive drunk. Or even a drunk. They are not unscathed, but they have carved out solid family lives for themselves (youngest now mid 40's) and have a great, loving and supportive relationship with each other.

I have a dear friend whose dad spent most of her childhood in and out of hospital getting treated for cancer, tested, treated again.. A long, slow death. Again, no abuse, no alcoholism. Their mother died suddenly when the youngest was in her late teens.

I'll ask again -- does this simmering anger present itself at work or is it only at home that he throws extended, slow burning tantrums?

It's really easy to paper over damage to children, and to project to the extent that because you are feeling ok, redeemed, have moved on, therefore the children are ok too. Some people are not willing to see the effect they have had on others. Sometimes the effect reveals itself much later.

My exH certainly falls into this camp. He blames me 100% for the fact that none of the children has chosen to talk to him once they were free of the obligation to do visitation, at age 18. He tried to convince a judge in post divorce court that I was alienating the children who remained under 18, and that I conspired with them to cause him to lose his right to see them by calling police after I learned of an incident that had terrified them. According to his narrative I am some sort of puppeteer, pulling strings, making him fall into trap after trap. The guardian ad litem appointed by the court to represent the children and sort out the 'he said/she said' stuff cut through the BS - and exH still felt it was necessary to his cause to speak up on his own behalf after this lawyer had presented his report, to recount to the judge a litany of things I was to blame for: in short all the dysfunction of our relationship, his mental health problems, all of the alienation of the children.

Janecc, I am not out of the relationship. This man has hauled me to court several times since we were divorced, effectively insisting that I stay firmly in the relationship, which is where he is mired and where he wants me to stay too, the better to abuse me. He has discovered that if he files a motion against me for contempt of court I am obliged to answer, to appear in court, and to stand there in jeopardy of being sent to jail. Presumably exH has some fantasy about me being punished (he used that word in one of his motions). He is a lawyer. It costs him nothing to represent himself. He doesn't appear to see himself as others in the open court see him at all. He firmly believes every single accusation he levels against me.

Marigold, very well said.

IFinished, what utter tripe you post.
Marriage vows are not carte blanche to inflict your problems on someone you promised to love and honour. Honouring your beloved means taking proper care of your own problems so you do not create hell on earth for someone you claim to love.

Janecc · 25/05/2016 19:20

Mathanxiety the ordeal your ex has subjected you to and continues to do so is horrendous and I'm struggling to find words. I am truly sorry that such human beings walk the planet in such stupidity and ignorance of how others see them. He sounds like an aberration in the vilest sense of the word.

As I hope I made clear in my last post, I have no desire to quarrel with you. I do truly hope that you and op find the peace you deserve.

Janecc · 25/05/2016 19:27

Math' I should have said I will be taking a break from this thread as I have no desire to be adversarial with courageous women, who have been through so much.

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 25/05/2016 20:15

Math, my point with marriage vows was if he has a mental illness - in sickness and in health. But you've chosen to ignore that.

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 25/05/2016 20:17

OP hasn't even got to the bottom of what's wrong yet. If it was a definite pattern of abuse that would be different.

mathanxiety · 27/05/2016 03:06

My point was that one promises to honour and love. So you do not have the right to let mental illness be an excuse. If you have it in your power to be helped, and these days mental illness can be reasonably well managed, then you owe it to your spouse to seek help. Yes, I realise that part of mental illness can often be refusal to accept that it is not everyone else that is out of step, but in that case, the obligation to stay in sickness and in health is open to review. Marriage is not meant to be a millstone around anyone's neck. If the OP wants to have children then this is most likely not the man to consider that journey with. Children do not have to have the in sickness and in health business inflicted on them either.

pearlylum · 27/05/2016 07:31

mathanxiety, I agree. I left my husband when he was terminally ill with cancer.
His family painted me as the bitch from hell.
He became abusive to me after the first year of marriage, and when he became ill he got much worse.
Yes I promised to stay with him in sickness and in health but to me that didn't include abusive behaviour.

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