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Cancelling a week before wedding

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GabsAlot · 21/05/2016 10:56

I am fuming for my sister-her wedding is a week today and a guest has cancelled due to a football match

They said cant be helped we're in the play offs-They RSVP'd months ago and have no cancelled a week before the wedding

They were all day guests him and his son

I think its completely out of order and he doesnt even seem bothered

More of a rant really but im not being unreasonable am i?

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alltouchedout · 21/05/2016 11:51

Yes, there being rude. But please don't scrabble about finding a replacement. It's offensive to be last minute upgraded to the full day, not because the bride and groom really want you there but because someone they did want there has cancelled and they don't want the money they paid for the original invitee's meal to be wasted or for there to be an empty space at a table.

alltouchedout · 21/05/2016 11:52

Argh! They're

Originalfoogirl · 21/05/2016 11:54

Just because it is the most important day in your sister's life, doesn't make it the most important day in everyone else's.

People have different priorities and clearly to him, spending a day with his son going to an event they feel is special, is a priority over going to a cousin's wedding. I don't think it is highly rude to cancel, presumably there would be circumstances you deem it "ok" to cancel but you can't decide what's important for other people.

I'm also surprised at the "waste of money" aspect of it. You set a budget, you pay it. Do you then go round the wedding to make sure everyone has eaten every course of food? At some weddings I've been to, there isn't much on the menu I would eat, so the bride and groom have paid for three courses when all I've had is a main course. Surely that's wasteful too?

To suggest others "could have taken his place" means there are people your sister has not invited because she deemed her cousin as more important. Not sure I'd feel being bumped up to a day guest was an honour, I'd probably refuse. She can't expect to make her own judgements about who or what is important then get pissy because others do the same.

Janecc · 21/05/2016 11:55

Rude ignoramus. A commitment is a commitment. On one day and one day only, two people are the most important in a family or social group. That really shouldn't be too hard to comprehend and I don't buy into the people have lives argument unless there is a genuine emergency/illness.

GabsAlot · 21/05/2016 12:05

well everyones entitled to their opinion i guess but he has cancelled family get togethers before over football and it was just a normal match day

i get the replacment thing i wouldnt like to be asked last minute i dont think she is going to invite anyone else

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MrsJoeyMaynard · 21/05/2016 12:07

It's very rude of them. I'd have been very cross if one of our wedding guests had cancelled so close to the wedding because they essentially decided they'd rather do something else.

We wouldn't have got a refund from the venue this close to the wedding either, we had to confirm final numbers with them more than a week in advance.

We did have a few last minute cancellations, but they were due to genuine emergencies (and one relationship breaking up a few days before the wedding) rather than guests just deciding not to bother going.

WeAllHaveWings · 21/05/2016 12:14

Extremely rude and inconsiderate.

Does he have a wife/partner and is she still attending? I'd be mortified if my dh did this.

SomeDyke · 21/05/2016 12:14

they think football is more important than your wedding. fine but they could at least cough up for the money that has been spent. very rude even if it has happened before. self before family.

LunaLoveg00d · 21/05/2016 12:16

To be perfectly honest I wouldn't want someone at my wedding who thought a football match was more important than a family committment. How ridiculous.

sleeponeday · 21/05/2016 12:16

no feckin theyre going to watch the football not play-the son is 11

Shock I thought people were being harsh originally - I mean, we had no idea what level he was playing at, and it might be a huge deal - but watching?!

Unbelievably rude. It may be worth calling the venue, apologising and explaining - you never know, given the hideous bad manners and the fact they will have savings on the food costs they may be willing to say provide more wine in lieu of the food, so they still have the same spend but on different things - after all, venues make more profit on booze than food, anyway. It saves on labour and materials. Worth a try, at least? Two adults plus a child all day would buy a few bottles!

GabsAlot · 21/05/2016 12:21

yes his wife and other son are still coming-i think shes going to inform them not expecting anything so will see what they say

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catslife · 21/05/2016 12:22

Although I agree that this is irritatng, at least they have let you know beforehand (even though it is very short notice). There were some guests who didn't show up for our wedding and didn't bother to let us know in advance (we thought they were coming). We understand that this was because they were going to another party instead (not that they were ill or it was a family emergency) which would be more understandable.

dowhatnow · 21/05/2016 12:29

A couple of old friend guests let us know they couldn't come one day after we had confirmed numbers. If they'd given us one days more notice we could have saved that money [angry They were only invited for the whole day because they lived so far away. An emergency is forgivable. Their excuse wasn't.

likeaboss · 21/05/2016 12:32

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MauledbytheTigers · 21/05/2016 12:36

NC as fairly identifying info.

Yes it's very rude, that's undeniable. But I don't think it is fair to look through it of the lens of it just being a football match. If it is the match I assume, Sheffield Wed v Hull City then it's the biggest game this season for either of them and possibly the biggest game either will have in years. It's at Wembley for a start (I don't know the last time Sheffield Wed went to Wembley) but it's not an event that comes round all that often, possibly far less, with all due respect than a cousins wedding. And I imagine far more important to an 11 year old boy than a grown up cousins wedding.

The stakes in this game are extremely high...it's the most valuable of all the games played in the UK because of what it means for the team to reach the premiership and get the TV deals that go with that.

I don't know which team they are supporting bit it's fair to say neither team were expected to get to the final so your family are being truthful. Hull because they had been beaten twice already this season by Derby and Sheffield because they came 6th in the league and in the semis had to beat the team that came 3rd and missed out on automatic promotion by 2 goals to get there....I.e. reaching Wembley for Sheffield is the stuff of footballs wildest dreams, and for hull too after the 2nd leg.

I have family going to Wembley supporting Hull. I'm not a Hull fan but follow their progress and wish them well. Because it was important to family I went as a one off (not been since I was a child) to watch the 1st leg of Derby v Hull as an away fan (none of us live in hull but my dad is from there originally hence not going to home game). Despite not being a fan, I do occasionally watch football when DP has it on (diff team) so am not completely uninterested but I have to say being at the match (winning unexpectedly) was probably one of the best things I've done this year... it was magical. There were adults crying, men and women. I can't describe it to people who don't have an interest but what I'm saying is don't underestimate how important this is to people.

Before I get flamed, I was all set for Wembley (having enjoyed last sat more than expected) but I can't make it work (with the travelling) with plans I have on the Sunday (just lunch with friends but booked in for months because involves travelling) and I don't want to let people down.... had I been a lifelong fan, who knows, maybe I would, I don't know. I am very envious of my family who are going and not even a proper supporter. It's so important to the fans that one relative said if they didn't get tickets they were planning on going to Wembley (he lives nowhere near, is hundreds of miles away) with a sign saying he needed a ticket and was prepared to pay well over face value.

Anyway I know this doesn't help, I know you feel let down and understandly so, I'm just trying to provide some context for how they will have reached their decision because with all due respect to other posters, if you don't get football you won't understand how important this match is... comparing watching it on TV (presumably after the event if they're at the wedding) instead of going to Wembley is like telling someone to look at pictures of a beach on the internet instead of having a holiday.

I'm not for one second saying their decision is not rude or hurtful, I would be upset too, (and I reckon my own brother would prioritise such a game let alone a cousin!) I'm saying that they haven't ditched a wedding just 'for a football match's at least not in their eyes. It's nothing personal, its just that important to them.... they might not get this opportunity again for a very long time..and they aren't lying by saying they couldn't have known (it was possible but unlikely).

I do think however that if your sister is left out of pocket they should cover the cost. Please understand I'm not saying that what they have done is right, I'm just trying to be a bit more objective.... personally I would chose the wedding over the football but I can at least understand why others may not.

DropZoneOne · 21/05/2016 12:39

We had the same for our wedding 12 years ago. One guest cancelled, his partner still came. I was annoyed, as table plan had all been done by that point - for the second time after 5 of DH family dropped out after a disagreement the week before!

Lucyccfc · 21/05/2016 12:42

Football to some is a way of life and for their team to get to the play off final is a dream come true and would trump a cousins wedding. It's far more important than if they were playing a match. If my team my son supported got to Wembley, it wouldn't matter who was getting married - I would take him to Wembley. Football is his life. That's just the way it is.

They should have said as soon as the play off semi final results were in, but I suspect the non-football fans would still have been 'fuming'. They should at least have offered to reimburse the cost of the meal.

When I got married, 90% of our guests are football fans. I checked all the dates for the end of the season, F.A. Cup final, play off dates and the Euro's. We chose a date based on that, so DH and I and oir guests wouldn't end up with a clash. My Mum even got me to check football dates when she got married, so she could guarantee I would be there.

If you are not a football fan, you will never understand the importance of a play-off final at Wembley.

GrumpyMummy123 · 21/05/2016 12:44

Until we got married ourselves I wouldn't have understood the big deal. But now do and it drover me mad!

I spent days and days agonising over the guest list. Venue capacity and finances mean you can't invite everyone so decisions have to be made. Can't invite x from uni because have to invite cousin y and that sort of thing.

Turning down an invite early on is fine, not a problem can fill the space by bumping up an evening guest or telling auntie so and so she can now bring her best friend to drive her etc.

But a week before is really rude and annoying as too late to change and probably already paid for their space. However on the day is even worse - we had 3 couples not turn up to ours. Friends of DH and some relatives. Ones that were il, fair enough but one couple said the girlfriend had to work and the other we never did find out and haven't heard from then since! Not only were we paying for them anyway, and not able to fill the spaces with people we would have liked to have been there - it left big gaps on the tables and changed the dynamics of our very carefully thought out table plan!!

SirChenjin · 21/05/2016 12:48

Of course it's rude, immature and ignorant. It doesn't matter if it's a cup final, you accepted an invitation to a family wedding.

I presume that they have offered to reimburse her, are reassessing their priorities as adults, and have issued a grovelling apology?

Originalfoogirl · 21/05/2016 12:56

well everyones entitled to their opinion i guess but he has cancelled family get togethers before over football and it was just a normal match day

So, she invited a football mad relative, with known form for cancelling because of football, to a Saturday wedding during football play off season, and then gets upset when he cancels because of football?

He had already RSVPd, meaning he was willing to forgo a normal match day. But it turned into something bigger and that's important to him. Why are her wishes more important than his?

SirChenjin · 21/05/2016 13:01

Because manners dictate that you don't back out of a family wedding you've already confirmed you will attend because 'something better' comes along.

Perhaps he wasn't taught that a child.

Celticlassie · 21/05/2016 13:04

People need to remember that their wedding is not as big a deal to other people as It is to them. Those who aren't football fans obviously don't understand (playing? Hmm) but going to Wembley is a massive deal, potentially a once in a lifetime experience and I would have completely understood if someone had pulled out of my wedding for something like that. Believe it or not, your dad's cousin's wedding is not an exciting prospect for most 11 year old boys.
You do sound overly invested OP, considering that it isn't even your wedding.

choli · 21/05/2016 13:07

Oh for God's sake. I thought this would be about the groom to be pulling out. A guest cancelled, big deal. Rude, yes, but hardly the end of the world. OP is suffering from Bridezilla Syndrom By Proxy.

GabsAlot · 21/05/2016 13:11

sorry she cant invite her cousin because hes football mad and shes got to look ahead thinking they might be in the play offs so dont invite him?

how ridiculous

oh and how decent of him to forego a normal football match we are not worthy

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GabsAlot · 21/05/2016 13:12

maybe i am overly invested maybe its my sisters big day and people dont give a crap

maybe its coz we lost our mother dont speak to our father and dont have much family left

sorry

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