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To think seeing an older lady curtesy to KM is sad to see

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Julia2016 · 20/05/2016 13:05

Just saw a photo of an older lady curtesying to Kate Middleton, I felt so sad to see it. Sad as to why anyone would feel the need to bow down to another human being.

Every day I shake my head with who people admire in this world and how the general public swallow all these pr machines. 😒

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YoungGirlGrowingOld · 20/05/2016 14:59

Meh. Don't care. The idea of bowing and scraping before these parasites (all of them, not just the subject of this thread) gives me much more rage than the average politician. At the end of the day, politicians can be voted out. The royals? Not so much.

FlyingElbows · 20/05/2016 15:00

Just as an aside can I add the Japanese tidying up lady to Kylie Minogue and Kim Marsh?!

Anyway... I like the Royal family and so do lots of other people. It's entirely up to them if they want to curtsy. There are some really quite unpleasant personal comments on this thread.

IrianofWay · 20/05/2016 15:01

My mother couldn't curtsey - these days she's fall over if she tried,

Just5minswithDacre · 20/05/2016 15:08

That's MK elbow. Please don't expand The scope for confusion Smile

blindsider · 20/05/2016 15:12

younggirlgrowingold

Haven't you got a fence you need to handcuff yourself to?? Hmm

Banderwassnatched · 20/05/2016 15:15

Agree with Young girl. I'm sure the Royals are fine, nice people probably. Friendly and polite. I despise them because they represent centuries of oppression.

IndridCold · 20/05/2016 15:16

Im sure I read somewhere that Kate has to curtsy to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie Hmm

mythbustinggov · 20/05/2016 15:20

Just

Develop her photography properly (what happened to that?), Complete a PhD, Run marathons for charity, Run a Guide pack in her village, Intern, anything

Actually, while living in Anglesey KM spent time as a leader at the local Beaver Scout colony. Quietly, to avoid publicity.

Interestingly, someone up-thread accused KM of not having ambition. I would say that getting to be one of the top five most important and influential women in the country is pretty ambitious (not that I think it was KM's motivation in marrying PW). You (and I) may not agree with the institution, but it's there - it's a bit like complaining that the National Lottery is an unfair way of distributing wealth. That may be true, but if I won I wouldn't refuse the cash.

blindsider · 20/05/2016 15:22

Marvellous - Nothing gets the lefties frothing like a bit of class warfare Grin

Veterinari · 20/05/2016 15:22

I think the OP is rather missing the point

  1. The 'older lady' Hmm chose to curtsy to KM
  2. The fact that you are objecting not to the curtsy but to the fact the lady was older and KM is younger is simply ageist and disrespectful of the older ladies choices
  3. Just because young people have less experience it doen't mean that older people should automatically expect more respect - respect is earned, so if you were to have a sensible discussion it should be on the basis of relative accomplishment, not age
Just5minswithDacre · 20/05/2016 15:25

Actually, while living in Anglesey KM spent time as a leader at the local Beaver Scout colony. Quietly, to avoid publicity.

So that's after she married - in her 30s - and still doesn't help account for her lost decade (twenties).

Interestingly, someone up-thread accused KM of not having ambition. I would say that getting to be one of the top five most important and influential women in the country is pretty ambitious (not that I think it was KM's motivation in marrying PW).

Either her marriage was motivated by ambition (in which case, yes, she's a very successful gold digger) or love (in which case she isn't a gold digger but you can't give her credit for realised ambition either).

You can't have it both ways.

derxa · 20/05/2016 15:28

They could all abdicate, Dino. That would satisfy me I doubt it

AdrenalineFudge · 20/05/2016 15:30

I've just looked at the images. What strikes me the most is just how unnaturally thin she has become. I'm not skinny bashing at all but that's not her natural build and it actually looks rather painful.

Just5minswithDacre · 20/05/2016 15:30

Im sure I read somewhere that Kate has to curtsy to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie

Because of the royal blood. The whole institution is obsessed with blood Grin

hellsbellsmelons · 20/05/2016 15:38

just how unnaturally thin she has become
That's probably due to the stress of being over worked and under paid Grin

grimbletart · 20/05/2016 15:42

Shouldn't you be at work YoungGirl? Or is that just rather a long lunch hour you are having?

derxa · 20/05/2016 15:43

What strikes me the most is just how unnaturally thin she has become
Just like Diana. Leave her alone.

AdrenalineFudge · 20/05/2016 15:46

derxa Ok, I promise to stay away from the palace Confused

mythbustinggov · 20/05/2016 15:47

*Either her marriage was motivated by ambition (in which case, yes, she's a very successful gold digger) or love (in which case she isn't a gold digger but you can't give her credit for realised ambition either).

You can't have it both ways.*

I wasn't trying to, just pointing out that accusing someone who had become that influential from a middle-class starting point as stifling ambition stuck me as a bit odd.

After all, ambition is all about getting to be the best you can be, there are many ways to do that, and if one involves a loving relationship with gaining power and influence as a side effect then that would seem to be a win.

Unless you think the system that gives you that position is toxic and should be dismantled - I doubt KM does, so I don't think she deserves the personal abuse. She's accused of being dim, but she got to a top University before she met PW, so on her own merits and with all the right grades.

By all means attack the institution of the monarchy, together with the House of Lords and any other hereditary privilege - meritocracy would be much better. But to attack someone who has followed the path that fell before her in such a vitriolic way is as bad as any other form of abuse.

BonerSibary · 20/05/2016 15:48

YANBU. It's always a shame to see someone with the serf mentality, and her being happy to do it doesn't make it any better. Might even make it worse. This has nothing to do with whether KM is nice, nasty or, like most of us, somewhere in the middle. Curtseying to her is still bollocks.

derxa · 20/05/2016 15:51

Ok, I promise to stay away from the palace
Grin I didn't think you were scaling the walls of BP I thought you made a valid point about her thinness.

AnnPerkins · 20/05/2016 15:53

YANBU about one person curtseying to another.

Debating who is or isn't a 'commoner' and who does or doesn't 'deserve' the privilege and entitlement afforded to one family in this country leaves me absolutely cold though.

They're all just human beings. None of them actually has blue blood. It's all bollocks.

SuburbanCrofter · 20/05/2016 15:56

I'm now trying to make a list of who I would curtsey to misses point

Apart from Kylie Minogue, of course, I have come up with

Sir David Attenborough
Claire Balding
Mary Berry

who else?

Lovewineandchocs · 20/05/2016 16:00

"I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate has to curtsy to Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie"

If that's true, it's a disgrace. How humiliating to have to curtsy to your husband's cousins! And if/when William becomes King, will they then have to curtsy to her as Consort or whatever her title will be? It's a minefield!

HazelBite · 20/05/2016 16:01

"Tireless service" the queen!!!!!
She doesn't even have to open her own curtains in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!

I give tireless service, and so do lots of other people..........
Just imagine not having to think about your finances, choosing whether to live in town or country, not having to go on the NHS waiting list, not having to worry about your DCs education, letting someone else arrange your dinner parties and do the catering, always have transport to hand, to be able to follow your interests and hobbies with no financial restrictions, the list is endless.

It is a job, I will admit to that, but boy wouldn't we all like fringe benefits like that.

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