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to send my sheep to hospital to be induced

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derxa · 17/05/2016 12:51

For 3 days now not one of the buggers has given birth. They just lie there in their pregnant splendour. Not even bothering to get up and eat. I tootle round them on the quad bike every 2 hours. Not a sausage.

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derxa · 18/05/2016 21:14

I'd like to redefine 'easy care' Grin

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derxa · 18/05/2016 21:22

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cozietoesie · 18/05/2016 21:24

'Easy care' for me would be 'No Dagging'. Grin

stealthsquiggle · 18/05/2016 21:32

Wouldn't a quick 40degree wash and tumble dry achieve the same thing, cozie?

cozietoesie · 18/05/2016 22:10
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NeedACleverNN · 18/05/2016 22:18

I'm just sliding in here..

I just did a big awwwww at monkeys lambs.

It does re cement the "I really can't eat lamb" thing I have going on though

ParadiseCity · 18/05/2016 22:26

Awwwwwww lambs.

WellErrr · 18/05/2016 22:33

I'm confused but loving the lamb updates. What does twin on, set on and skin on mean? Did the ewes die but the babies survived?

Setting on (or twinning on some people say - it's all regional!) is when you give a ewe lambs that aren't hers. The aim is for every ewe to leave the shed/field rearing two lambs, or she's not fulfilling her earning potential.
Some ewes will have one lamb, some two, some three. Three is too many for one ewe, so we take the third off to leave an even pair.
The third goes in the pet pen to await a new mummy.

All the ewes are marked at scanning time to we know what they're having. When we see a single lambing, we can get something from the pet pen and trick her into thinking she's had two.

The easiest way to do this is when you have a triplet and single lambing together. You give the single a wet newborn triplet before she has her own. She sniffs it and thinks 'oooh, my baby is here!' and having nothing to compare it to and being full of birthing hormones she readily accepts it.
After a bit her own lamb is born which she obviously accepts too. Job done.

But usually there's a single lambing and all we have are dry lambs of a day or two old. Now, that won't trick her. She'll just batter it.
So, we take the set-on lamb, tie two of its legs together if it's very lively, and catch the lambing single ewe.
With her laying down, we put the set-on on the straw right by her foof and pull her own lamb out slowly, over the very confused set on. This covers it in birth fluids. We then rub all the goo and cleansing (afterbirth) all over the set-on, absolutely cover it, and rub both lambs together.

Then, we give her the set-on first, holding her lamb back until she starts to lick and talk to the set-on. Once she does this, we give her her own lamb too.
This also works for still births but you'd then set two lambs on.

If the ewe's own lamb has died after being born, you can skin the dead lamb to make a coat for the new one, as there are no birth fluids in this case. The lamb wears his skin coat until it drops off, and the ewes often accept them.

9 times out of ten a good set on will work. Sometimes it doesn't, the ewe gets suspicious so we put her in an 'adopter' which is a wooden frame for her head to go through. She can eat, drink, lie down etc, but she can't see her lambs so lets them both suck and eventually accepts them. Then she goes out with an extra mark so we can keep a close eye on them all.

Sorry for the essay!! But it's quite interesting I think!

We don't like having pet lambs here. A pet will eat approx £45 worth of powder milk, plus any medicines, hay, straw, labour etc, and will only be worth around £40-50 at the end of it so it's economically not great.

A healthy ewe-fed lamb will make £50-90 depending on type, quality and the market, so one ewe rearing two will make you potentially £150ish a year, and she would have cost around £80-90 to buy as a ewe lamb, so if she rears two lambs a year for say 5-7 years she'll be earning her keep.

Sorry for the essay - I could talk about sheep farming ALLLLLL day!

Ooh and a little note on easy care sheep - some people describe some breeds, such as Lleyns, as 'easy care,' but there is actually a breed called Easycare which shed their fleece naturally and don't require shearing. Lleyns still need to be shorn.

As shearing contractors we obviously think that true Easycares should FOTTFSOF Grin

stealthsquiggle · 18/05/2016 22:40

I think our neighbours have actual Easycares - I seem to recall him saying they didn't need shearing when I asked (and explained my wash and tumble dry theory which he was not impressed by Blush)

Can't be 100% though as it was a village thing so naturally vast amounts of Wine were involved.

QuestionableMouse · 18/05/2016 22:40

I feel for you. A friend of mine breeds horses- most mares are pregnant for 330-345 days. She has a mare who is on day 360 and showing no signs of foaling. We'd all be thinking it was a false pregnancy but the vet can feel the foal and you can see it moving about.

Strokethefurrywall · 18/05/2016 22:43

I shit you not WellErrr, that was definitely the most interesting thing I have read in AGES!

Seriously, I'm not even being sarcastic! Grin

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WellErrr · 18/05/2016 23:32

Anything else you want to know? I'm here all night Grin

Glad you found it interesting Smile I love sheep farming and can waffle on for ages. We lamb in March though so ours are all getting quite big now, it's strange to think of new lambs so late (to me!)

Actually end of May is quite late full stop - why do you do them now derxa? Smile
At least you shouldn't have mud and frosts to deal with! Grin

ArfurFacksake · 18/05/2016 23:54

*WellErrr
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Thanks, I loved reading that!

LizKeen · 19/05/2016 00:17

Horses are pregnant for a YEAR?

I feel a bit dizzy reading that.

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DramaAlpaca · 19/05/2016 00:27

WellErrr thank you! That was fascinating reading.

I grew up in the Lake District, right next door to a farm, but not being from a farming family myself I know next to nothing about it. I remember once happening to see a ewe giving birth to twin lambs in the field behind our house. I must've been about 7 or 8 & I've never forgotten it, it was amazing.

LapsedPacifist · 19/05/2016 00:34

Could you just try twiddling their nipples? This was the advice I was given 20 years ago for a human baby -now a 6'3" undergrad Blush

fatandold · 19/05/2016 00:52

Loving the lamb talk. Takes me back to my early childhood on a working country estate. Slept in the lambing shed in the straw all night as a wee one, while mum saw to the sheep. I still recall my own pet lambs that I hand reared.

monkey your lambs are beaut. Especially the one with two heads. Very unusual!

Wagglebees · 19/05/2016 00:52

That was fascinating Well. I live very close to a farm that is full of sheep and their lambs but know nothing beyond how cute they are and that each sheep has a different baa so the lambs will recognise their mother's call from across the field. (Although now I'm doubting myself. Is that right?)

Anyway I really enjoyed your post so thank you for explaining it all. 🐏

derxa · 19/05/2016 06:40

Actually end of May is quite late full stop - why do you do them now derxa? It's because G is away hill lambing for someone else before that. It was an arrangement she had with my dad. I don't want to upset the applecart and make other 'suggestions' at the moment. I'll wait and see how well the gimmers sell this year and if they are big enough.

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WellErrr · 19/05/2016 06:50

Ah right! Yes ours have to fit in with other work too Smile

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 19/05/2016 23:47

Hi Derxa. Any more little lambs, yet.

derxa · 20/05/2016 06:33

Yes I live some lovely ones. About six yesterday. Weather wet so had to keep an eye out for the newborns. However I went out on the field yesterday morning and there was a newborn single. It was so healthy and strong that I couldn't catch it to iodine its cord. Little bugger. Its mother was stamping her feet much more than usual. I left it to DS to catch it later. Felt like a bit of a twat Grin

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derxa · 20/05/2016 19:02

OMG we've just saved a lamb from being run over on the main road. It got through the fence. Be still my beating heart.

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MooPointCowsOpinion · 20/05/2016 19:16

This is fascinating. I read about the orphan lamb being set on a ewe with a stillborn in the secret garden (I think? Or was it six cousins by Enid button?) as a child and have always been curious about the process.