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to ignore STBXH's religious beliefs

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MrsDeathOfRats · 12/05/2016 21:39

Firstly, sorry about the number of threads I'm starting right now but I am so conflicted on many levels right now!

So, STBXH is Muslim. We have so far raised the kids as such. BUT he really only eats halal and observes Ramadan.
I am filing for divorce and once it is done I see no reason to keep feeding the kids halal food.

So, in the 6 years I have know him He has NEVER attended a mosque.
He used to smoke.
We lived together and were pregnant prior to religious marriage ceremony.

I am not Muslim and I will be the resident parent.

WIBU to stop feeding them exclusively halal meat once we are divorced?

So as not to drip feed: I am prepared to continue not feeding them pork.
This is going to cause major issues and any hope of an amicable post marriage relationship will disappear.
(If I ever tell him. But if he ever asks I won't lie)

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MrsDeathOfRats · 12/05/2016 22:50

Bollocks. I'm NOT deliberately going against him to piss him off. But because life is changing.

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NoMudNoLotus · 12/05/2016 22:50

Completely agree with WriteForFun.

The children choose their religion when they are older if they want one.

Limer · 12/05/2016 22:54

You don't answer to him once you're divorced. You should never have answered to him when you were married, tbh. Don't make that mistake again if you find someone new.

No alcohol, covering up and halal meat? When he didn't even believe in any of the mumbo-jumbo anyway? Find your backbone.

MrsDeathOfRats · 12/05/2016 22:54

I can already foresee issues with maintenance.
During an earlier row and divorce was spoke of he started ranting on about not giving me money as he wont support me, and when I pointed out it was for the DC not me he stated he would reimburse me for things for them but not give me money for them as I can't be trusted to spend it properly!
so he won't be prepared to pay more.

I feel very conflicted about it.
Which is why I'm taking offence at being accused of doing it to get back at him. If that was the case I wouldn't be asking at all. I'd just do it.

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fuzzywuzzy · 12/05/2016 22:57

Sod that, go through child maintenance for child support money.

Hissy · 12/05/2016 22:58

This is why it's all bollocks. My ex used to buy halal if he was going to the butcher, but he was happy to buy and eat anywhere, just not pork. Oh yeah and he drank (like all his friends) smoked (including hash) and cheated when ever he could.

He was (and is) controlling, manipulative, abusive. He made me suffer for years, and then mercifully left when I wouldn't do that he told me any more (God bless mumsnet Grin)

For a while after he left I carried on as before, no pork.

Then I realised that I didn't need to live by his rules any more so started eating bacon etc again.

I resisted giving it to ds (5) at the time, but he wanted to eat it, we had a talk, I explained that it was not permitted in Islam. (Again, zero effort from his deadbeat dad to foster the religon)

Ds and I eventually took the decision when he was around 6 for him to choose for himself.

So he eats whatever he likes.

Of course when his dad came back for the first time this summer, he wasn't happy about the pork, blamed me, but I told him it wasn't a rash decision taken lightly... Blah blah he didn't listen. I don't care.

My son can make his own mind up to get religon or not. I don't think he will, he doesn't believe now, and I can't see that changing.

My suggestion to you love is to agree with your exh that he cares for them wrt food in the way he sees fit, and you will do the same.

When they are older, they can chose religion if any, and you'll listen to them.

Your ex was not observant in many many ways, so he's in no position to make comment (he will tho, I'll bet)

If you can't agree this upfront with him, do it anyway.

You are very thoughtful and considerate.

Limer · 12/05/2016 22:59

If he's arguing about maintenance, take him to court. He'll soon learn where his responsibilities lie.

Hissy · 12/05/2016 23:01

Oh. The money... I had that too.

Hours of rants.

They get it eventually, just keep repeating yourself over and over and only ever refer to it as the children's money.

Even if you remarry a billionaire, he would still be responsible for contributing to the upkeep of his kids. Even if you didn't need it, you'd put it in an account for them.

Ultimately, if he pissees you about, put in a claim.

MrsLupo · 12/05/2016 23:01

I would absolutely adhere to Muslim food rules post-divorce if XH was a devout practising Muslim, but since he's not I think you would be indulging an illogical, slightly hypocritical stance on his behalf in a way that's reasonable in the context of a shared family life, but not really in the context of you having split up. It's no different to my mind than you continuing to stack the dishwasher the way he prefers it, or never leaving the car parked in gear because he says it's wrong, even though he's not there anymore and it doesn't really matter. I stress I would absolutely not be seeing it as comparable if he had a deep religious conviction and was making the effort to pass that on to the kids, but on the evidence, he doesn't and he isn't. At the very least, if he wants a say in what the kids eat, he should be backing that up with explaining his religion to them properly.

Hissy · 12/05/2016 23:02

He's projecting. Ignore him. Don't rise, but don't put up with it.

MrsDeathOfRats · 12/05/2016 23:02

I'm prepared to go through CMS (whatever it's called) and pay the fee just to have it done and no hassle!! So that won't be an issue in itself but it will piss him off.

He likes to lead an expensive luxury life style and will be furious at having his wages garnished without his consent!

I don't see that it's going to be amicable in any way for a long long time... He won't be able to compartmentalise enough to be nice with his ex wife who divorced him and kicked him out

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agentmarmalade · 12/05/2016 23:03

So, is your soon to be ex H going to make things less than amicable between you of you decide to stop purchasing halal?
Why do u need to placate him? He is not even super strict with his Muslim practices from what u said.
Your kids are still so young and already turning down invites to parties based on half meat?
I would just go ahead and feed the kids whatever they like, and start accepting invites to parties and having fun.
If your ex kicks off about it, let him. He will look unreasonable then.
You aren't even actively practising religion at home so what difference is it going to make to the kids well being?

PurpleDaisies · 12/05/2016 23:08

Did you post this thread before op? It seems incredibly familiar...

NeedsAsockamnesty · 12/05/2016 23:14

Has he actually asked you if you are going to do so?

MrsDeathOfRats · 12/05/2016 23:20

No, this has not been discussed at all. I am preempting and genuinely trying to decide if this is unfair of me.
As obvs it doesn't mean anything to me, chicken is chicken is chicken to me!
But it seem important to him, he is their dad.... Tough call!

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fakenamefornow · 12/05/2016 23:20

Why are his beliefs more important than yours in this?

The children are a blank slate, they are too young to have any religious beliefs they will be molded (to a point) into whatever religion/or not, you want. So, why should that be what your ex wants and not what you want?

MadamDeathstare · 12/05/2016 23:26

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AndTakeYourPenguinWithYou · 12/05/2016 23:31

Why are his beliefs more important than yours in this?

Neither are very important, not compared with what is best for the children. Which should be the only thing that actually matters.

DioneTheDiabolist · 12/05/2016 23:37

www.mumsnet.com/TalkTalk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2523285-wibu-to-stop-halal-meat

OP, you may find this thread useful ^^. This poster has DCs a similar age to your own and is in the same sort of position.

LaBelleOtero · 12/05/2016 23:43

I'd say, if he wants them to eat halal meat he can arrange for a regular delivery to your home at a convenient time for you. As it's something that benefits his beliefs, not yours, and not the dc's as they are too young to have an opinion, he can be the one to meet the cost and the organization.

PlymouthMaid1 · 12/05/2016 23:45

How about becoming vegetarian then you totally avold the issue.? As an atheist I find it all odd really but your ex doesn't sound like very religious person.

WriteforFun1 · 13/05/2016 00:03

The more you explain about this, the more I think you should raise the children as you wish. it sounds as if he left quite a mark on the household and it's very important that the children see their parents as they are, it will help introduce respect and a sense of options. Tbh I'm a bit baffled that it wasn't like that from the outset.

Madam, why might it cause problems fir the chidren later if they decide to be Muslims?

cormorantfan · 13/05/2016 02:25

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ExtraHotLatteToGo · 13/05/2016 02:49

Love, even if Mother Teressa comes back to mediate, it's not going to be amicable.

He's a wanker.

He's not a practising Muslim with deep beliefs, he's just a controlling fuckwit.

You're going to be doing it all on your own, do it your way.

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