Babies in travel systems

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Am I bu that I just get the rage when I see babies in carseats clunked to the pram?

Am I being a judgypants?

Fair enough on the nip in & out jobs like school run.

But supermarket? Theme park? National trust gardens? Running? Town? Zoo? Places were the child is likely going to have been in that carseat for a few hours!

They've already been in it for the car journey. I bet likely, some will only be out of them all day for feeding time.

I watched holiday supersavers last night and the baby did the walk to supermarket, around supermarket and walk nack home again in the flippin carseat!

I just want to go up to them and tell them to stop being lazy and think of their child's spine development.

Exactly Cody

But OP would prefer to hook her jusgypants than try to understand how other struggling mothers might appreciate the break they get with the one short time possibly all week their baby isn't a) screaming or b) on them, and how precious or remarkable that nap they're having might be.

Yabu

Fortunately the majority of parents know not to use a carseat for more than a few hours.

My da was in his a lot attached to his pram frame. If he fell asleep on the way somewhere so you really suggest takin think out and getting him resettled in the pram and then reversing the process when you need to leave. No thanks.

I never used one it I think yabu and judgey. Also what kind of trip to the supermarket takes as long as a trip to a theme park?!

If you don't like seeing babies in travel systems then don't put your baby in a travel system. Let other parents decide for themselves, you don't know how long they have been there, I doubt many people take more than 2 hours to go to a supermarket!

And also let's face it, most people aren't only at the zoo for two hours(not even including the travelling time for that usually)

I have waiting 2 infact.

Okay, so supermarket is fine then, as no one ever takes 20mins to drive/walk there, hr to do shop and then journey back.

But what about the zoo?! 4 hrs spent at the zoo, day 40mins driving time.

Hmm lets see, baby with terrible reflux, parents need to pop to the supermarket - 10 mins drive. Baby falls asleep. Baby is settled. Parent's have the option - clip the car seat to the wheels and let baby continue to sleep peacefully whilst shopping is done, or wake baby by getting them out of car seat to put in pram and then have them scream around the shop?

Tough decision.

YABU.

Is there a 30 minute rule? Where do people learn this stuff? Sigh, I am having a third baby after a long gap and have been ignoring updated warnings because they all seem so faddish.

12 years ago we all used travel systems. Cot attachments for buggies were perceived as a waste of money because the baby outgrew them so quickly. As other posters said, the kids are fine. Car seat attachments probably aren't ideal but like lots of advice given about babies, the risk is probably overstated.

So many judge parents in the world. YABU.

I don't have a travel system because I don't like them. My friends have them and love them. We all get on with parenting our own children and don't judge each other. If we do, nobody would ever know with how we get on!

Get on with parenting your own kids and stop judging others. As others have said you have no idea of the full circumstances.

Yes I do itslikerain I have/had a combi carseat for both my children. So they need to be taken out of it if we need to go anywhere... Just popped in to sling/pushchair.

It's not just about curved spine, as a newborn their heads can flop forward and occlude their airway.

I'll just add that I also had a severely refluxy baby. Car seats were a god send on a quick trip to the shops if they were sleeping but they never spent longer than two hours in it.

We only live 5 minutes from the zoo. We can hear the monkeys in the evening.

While we're on the subject of monkeys, what exactly makes this your circus, op?

I loved my pebble

I'd snap it onto the adapters on my Stokke Chassis and do loop the loops around the place In half the time sorting the rest of the gubbins would take.

Best invention since the wheel

Use a sling, buy a pram that can be used from birth and have the seat every so slightly reclined (like the out n about nipper, or bugaboo bee)

Yes, because most people know in advance they're going to have a baby with reflux and choose their pram accordingly. Or have scads of cash lying about to buy another pram after the baby is born. Having had one with severe reflux (and who wasn't a fan of slings) I'm not in the business of judging others in the same situation. Unfortunately DS hated the car seat too.

Having had specialist advice that sleep was important to development, too. I'd much rather see a refluxy baby getting some much needed sleep in car seat while supervised than napping in them unsupervised.

Related: how the fuck long does it take you to do a grocery shop that getting to and from the supermarket plus the actual shop would tip you over the recommended safe time in a car seat?

Judge away OP . Hope it makes you feel better.

I 100% agree with you. It winds me up. i know i will get told off for my view.
I think only because i was taught the dangers of it and was told that only to do it for 30/40 mins or in the case of my DD it could have killed her if she was in it too long. Car journeys were a nightmare took 3x as long to get anywhere.

However i understand why people do it. I know some babies have medical needs such as reflux and this can help etc. At the end of the day its up to people what they want to do and i will always have my view but would never say it to someones face.

Not sure I understand spudlet I'd be even judgier if I saw monkeys at a circus.

Tbh, I don't like the infant seats in general. Baby in the back of the car, with restricted airway

I can easily understand it if a baby that was asleep, and would wake and be unsettled or crying if you moved it to pram or buggy, was left in a car seat. As I suspect is often the case.

X-post. An hour to get round the supermarket? Really?

YABVU and you must surely know that and have posted this to annoy parents of small babies for some strange reason. Irritatingly it has worked, on me at least.

You have no idea how long a baby has been in a car seat, whether it was a 5 minute or a 5 hour journey, whether they have been lifted into a sling, carried, fed etc in the past two hours or two minutes.

I have a lie-flat car seat but still adhere to the 2 hour rule as an absolute maximum. Most parents do the same and don't need your interfering judginess foisted upon them.

New parents are often feeling vulnerable and overwhelmed with information and advice about how to care for their babies. The vast majority take great care not to do anything that has any risk of harm to their precious child. We boil water to wash their little eyes, we sterilise anything that goes into their little mouths, we buy expensive gear and gadgets that we think will keep them safe, we fret about co-sleeping, attachment disorders and isofix. How about you just remember that and let folks get on with it. Save your judgy pants for those raising their children to be interfering and judgemental.

YABU kindly get a grip.

Yabu. The travel system has been a godsend for me with a small car. Now my ds is in the stroller part, I have to keep my car seats down

So these day long zoo visits. Are you trailing these people? How do you know they aren't picking the baby up and playing with it / letting it roll round on the grass / moving it to a highchair for meals? And then popping it back into the car seat for breaks or naps?

Bless your heart, op. The saying is 'Not my circus, not my monkeys'. I.E. None of my business.

It's a useful saying for life. I commend it to you.