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Bullying: should I just take him out of school? Please help - desperate for advice!

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CharlieJamie · 05/05/2016 00:59

Hello,

I hope this is the right place to post (I found this website very recently!)

My son is 12 (Yr 7) and is struggling a lot. He was quite popular at Primary School - lots of friends, etc. but still isn't fitting in at Secondary :(

I thought he would, but it was just taking some time. However, since October, he has really started to hate school. He is really shy... Some boys started laughing at him, saying that he was a loser, etc. because he had no friends. My son began to go to the library (during break/lunch) and made a few friends in there - he began to like school more. However, then lessons became really hard - some boys began to break his pens/pencils/ruler; they even stole his phone and smashed the screen. I spoke to his Form Tutor (the 1st point of contact) who told me that he couldn't do anything, due to him not being allowed to carry a phone. I was a little surprised, but decided to leave it, hoping that it had been noted.

Loads of incidents began to happen - his pants were being pulled down; he was being pushed; he was being prodded with scissors, etc.

I spoke to his Form Tutor again - he said that I needed to write the incidents down... I then gave the notes to his Head of Year; she made my son write a statement. The boys denied doing any of it (obviously) and she said that she'll keep an eye out.

Just before a PE lesson, my son spoke to his PE teacher and said that he was too scared to get changed in the normal changing room. The teacher called the bullies out and said "you promise you won't scare (son's name), as he thinks you will?" which was an awful way to handle it! They then kept tripping him up, throughout the lesson, resulting in my son needing an X-Ray. I went to his Head of Year again, who told my son to write another statement - the boys denied it again... She said she'll keep an eye out. I told her that she hadn't been, or that she's trying to and it isn't working and I asked what else could be done. She said that nothing can be done, at the moment, due to her not knowing who is telling the truth. The PE teacher denied ever seeing the boys tripping him up, which I struggle to believe, due to him needing an X-Ray on his wrist - after all, the boys are Gifted & Talented for PE, so maybe he doesn't want them to get into trouble, who knows?

Anyway, his Head of Year put they all on report, including my son, so she can see what their teachers say. That day, my son was locked in a cupboard; punched in the stomach and told to kill himself - nothing was ever noted on these reports, due to them happening between lesson changes.

My little boy began getting an upset stomach/vomiting - his doctor said it was due to fear/nerves. I took the doctor's note into school - his Head of Year began questioning my son about home life and asking if he is making the stuff up, due to it really being something else. I was fuming. I got the Deputy Head involved (the Head was just too busy for bullying incidents - their words) and she said that they will keep an eye on the situation - she also spoke to the bullies.

That lunch time, when my son was on the way to the library, 5 children from Yr 11 (who are relatives of the bullies in my son's year) dragged him to the back of the library - stole his money/threw him to the ground/hit him in the face... My son came out from the back of the library, with a bleeding nose, a TA came over to him - he shouted words along the line of "I'm so fucking done - why are none of you helping me?"

She immediately took him to Head of Years' and said that he needs to be kept in isolation for the rest of the afternoon, due to him swearing. He went to talk to his Head of Year to explain, which she then replied "I'm not willing to listen, if you're not willing to respect staff..."

He broke down in tears and begged to call me, they refused. He walked out of the isolation room (which means automatic suspension)... I came and collected him - he threw himself into my arms, in absolute tears. The Head said "I'll deal with you on Thursday..." and we left. I'm just lost. My son is lost - he is depressed/suffering from constant upset stomach, etc. due to the constant fear. I have tried to cooperate with the school. My son has tried to take their word for it; he has faced school for 7 months, being bullied. Yes, he swore, it wasn't right, I know, but I didn't punish him, I'm okay with you thinking that I should, but I physically can't - my son is absolutely broken.

Please help, what would you do? :(

OP posts:
HairyBigSpider · 05/05/2016 08:22

This is absolutely awful. Attend the re-integration meeting today but without your son. Ask them exactly how they propose to keep him safe as, despite your concerns, nothing appears to be being done. Obtain copies of their safeguarding and bullying policies. Then contact the LEA and find him a place at another school where he will be happy.

ChihuahuaChick · 05/05/2016 08:29

Do whatever it takes, OP. This sounds a lot like what happened to me in secondary school - proper physical assaults, stress manifesting so bad it was manifesting as physical symptoms - the teachers didn't help at all and by the time I was removed from the school I just couldn't cope with being around people my age anymore so I played truant (and appeared in court for it at one point) until I could legally leave education at 15. It was a couple of years before I could bring myself to walk past groups of teenagers in the high street instead of taking winding detours to avoid them.

LindorBunny · 05/05/2016 08:36

Poor boy. Definitely look into moving him.

And definitely report the recent incident to the police. Schools very often start to take bullying seriously when the police are involved.

LindorBunny · 05/05/2016 08:37

Not that it should take police involvement.

MatildaTheCat · 05/05/2016 08:38

Go to the meeting and take someone with you. Ask that person to wear smart clothes and sit in silence taking notes. Just introduce as Mrs Smith or whatever. That will make them very uncomfortable.

Decide in advance what you want from the meeting and don't let them bully you.

Good luck.

CharlieJamie · 05/05/2016 08:39

Wow, thank you for the responses - some really great advice, thank you all!

His reintegration meeting is at 9 am, so I'm just getting ready to go... He isn't up yet, I have left him a little letter - telling him I have only gone and why; also asking him to text me what he would like to do today... I just want him to have a day, doing something he wants, so I've also taken annual leave. You know, I have no idea how my work will respond with the next few weeks, but frankly, I don't care. If they make me leave, they make me leave - at least I'll be looking after my boy. No, my partner (their dad) is in the army, always away - he's away for training, at the moment. For future meetings, etc. my mum will be more than happy to attend, but she will go absolutely crazy, which is something I just don't want at this stage (like, to the point she'd probably need to be removed off property)...

I'm going along today, with a massive folder, which has many, many incidents, dating back to October 3rd - the 1st ever incident. Still makes me very emotional to read them. I am going to phone the GP too - my little boy isn't well, he needs lots of help, he really does, he is shattered - he won't mind going, but I know appointments can take a while.

I have been looking at schools already - this area has some pretty awful schools (2 high schools are inadequate; my son's is satisfactory, but their last report was inadequate; I'll be hunting those out later, to read). That leaves 1 'good' school, which is 3 miles away, so we are far from the catchment area, so who knows.

I have decided that every single incident, will be reported to the police - I'll give them a copy of my folder, they can decide what bits are worthy of prosecution, etc. the folder contains hospital reports/doctor's letters/photographs, etc. I know the kids are 12/11, but it isn't right.

I'll let you know how the meeting goes :)

OP posts:
ChihuahuaChick · 05/05/2016 08:41

Good luck OP, my thoughts are with you and your son.Flowers

Italiangreyhound · 05/05/2016 08:43

You go girl! We are all behind you. XXXXX Smile

Missrubyring · 05/05/2016 08:49

Just finished reading this thread, you sound like an amazing mum and your DS will remember what you did for him.
Good luck OP .... Xxx Flowers Star

Castafioresbijoux · 05/05/2016 08:50

Have not read the whole thread, however, I would contact the police and report the bullies and the school. I would get a lawyer to send a letter to the school as to their failure in keeping your son safe and the names of all the relevant persons at the school who have not listened to you should be stated and named. I am fuming on your behalf and extremely upset for your son. No way my child would set foot in that appalling place.

AliensInUnderpants12 · 05/05/2016 08:50

Good luck with the meeting today!

I think in this situation I would take your son out of school as the school seem completely useless. I was bullied at school for 3 years and eventually I was taken out of school and had some time off before starting a new school. I really enjoyed my new school but I still have low self esteem. There's bullying and there's bullying in my opinion and some schools seem to want to pass off real bullying as normal behaviour.

Castafioresbijoux · 05/05/2016 08:51

And oh Flowers good luck!!

ForeverLivingMyArse · 05/05/2016 08:52

I don't have anything to add other than a big well done, you're awesome.

LittleMissBossyBoots · 05/05/2016 08:54

My experience with DD is that you have to visit potential schools and trust your gut instinct. She was at an 'outstanding' school but the reality was that they didn't give a toss about bullying just results. I eventually plucked up the courage to move her to an adequate school and the difference was palpable. The schools focus was on having happy children so there was zero tolerance of bullying or nastiness. With hindsight I wish I'd moved her a heck of a lot earlier.

Good luck.

almightygirl · 05/05/2016 08:57

Good luck Flowers

motheroreily · 05/05/2016 09:00

Just read your update and wanted to shout "yes". You sound so nice.I hope your son starts to feel brighter.

ISpeakJive · 05/05/2016 09:01

Reading this broke my heart for your son. I'm so glad you've taken him out and you're going to report to the police.

Good luck with the meeting. I hope the staff deal with these horrid bullies. I'd hate to think that they'd move on to someone else!

PirateSmile · 05/05/2016 09:02

Well done Charlie You are great!
Don't let the school run the meeting to suit their agenda. Don't be afraid to interrupt, disagree, pause if you need to think. Make sure you leave the meeting having made every single point you want to make. Take deep breaths and speak at your own pace.
We're with you in spirit.

Sleepingbunnies · 05/05/2016 09:05

Good luck with your meeting!

I 100% would not be sending any child of mine to a school that deals so poorly with bullying.

SquinkiesRule · 05/05/2016 09:06

Well done for standing up for your boy.
I would take the file to the Police and get something done that way, they got physical and damaged and stole property, so they need to answer to the Police. I'd want to press charges see how brave the bullies are then.

VitaSackvileVeste · 05/05/2016 09:07

Wishing you strength Flowers

Good to see that your will give out a copy of your folder, do not give originals to anyone else in case they get "lost".

AristotlesTrousers · 05/05/2016 09:12

Good luck, OP. You're absolutely doing the right thing. Flowers

origamiwarrior · 05/05/2016 09:13

You sound like a fab Mum. I'm so sorry about what you and your son have been through. I hope today goes well. We're all behind you.

cottonweary · 05/05/2016 09:16

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IceMaiden73 · 05/05/2016 09:23

Good luck, what a great mum you are x

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