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Bullying: should I just take him out of school? Please help - desperate for advice!

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CharlieJamie · 05/05/2016 00:59

Hello,

I hope this is the right place to post (I found this website very recently!)

My son is 12 (Yr 7) and is struggling a lot. He was quite popular at Primary School - lots of friends, etc. but still isn't fitting in at Secondary :(

I thought he would, but it was just taking some time. However, since October, he has really started to hate school. He is really shy... Some boys started laughing at him, saying that he was a loser, etc. because he had no friends. My son began to go to the library (during break/lunch) and made a few friends in there - he began to like school more. However, then lessons became really hard - some boys began to break his pens/pencils/ruler; they even stole his phone and smashed the screen. I spoke to his Form Tutor (the 1st point of contact) who told me that he couldn't do anything, due to him not being allowed to carry a phone. I was a little surprised, but decided to leave it, hoping that it had been noted.

Loads of incidents began to happen - his pants were being pulled down; he was being pushed; he was being prodded with scissors, etc.

I spoke to his Form Tutor again - he said that I needed to write the incidents down... I then gave the notes to his Head of Year; she made my son write a statement. The boys denied doing any of it (obviously) and she said that she'll keep an eye out.

Just before a PE lesson, my son spoke to his PE teacher and said that he was too scared to get changed in the normal changing room. The teacher called the bullies out and said "you promise you won't scare (son's name), as he thinks you will?" which was an awful way to handle it! They then kept tripping him up, throughout the lesson, resulting in my son needing an X-Ray. I went to his Head of Year again, who told my son to write another statement - the boys denied it again... She said she'll keep an eye out. I told her that she hadn't been, or that she's trying to and it isn't working and I asked what else could be done. She said that nothing can be done, at the moment, due to her not knowing who is telling the truth. The PE teacher denied ever seeing the boys tripping him up, which I struggle to believe, due to him needing an X-Ray on his wrist - after all, the boys are Gifted & Talented for PE, so maybe he doesn't want them to get into trouble, who knows?

Anyway, his Head of Year put they all on report, including my son, so she can see what their teachers say. That day, my son was locked in a cupboard; punched in the stomach and told to kill himself - nothing was ever noted on these reports, due to them happening between lesson changes.

My little boy began getting an upset stomach/vomiting - his doctor said it was due to fear/nerves. I took the doctor's note into school - his Head of Year began questioning my son about home life and asking if he is making the stuff up, due to it really being something else. I was fuming. I got the Deputy Head involved (the Head was just too busy for bullying incidents - their words) and she said that they will keep an eye on the situation - she also spoke to the bullies.

That lunch time, when my son was on the way to the library, 5 children from Yr 11 (who are relatives of the bullies in my son's year) dragged him to the back of the library - stole his money/threw him to the ground/hit him in the face... My son came out from the back of the library, with a bleeding nose, a TA came over to him - he shouted words along the line of "I'm so fucking done - why are none of you helping me?"

She immediately took him to Head of Years' and said that he needs to be kept in isolation for the rest of the afternoon, due to him swearing. He went to talk to his Head of Year to explain, which she then replied "I'm not willing to listen, if you're not willing to respect staff..."

He broke down in tears and begged to call me, they refused. He walked out of the isolation room (which means automatic suspension)... I came and collected him - he threw himself into my arms, in absolute tears. The Head said "I'll deal with you on Thursday..." and we left. I'm just lost. My son is lost - he is depressed/suffering from constant upset stomach, etc. due to the constant fear. I have tried to cooperate with the school. My son has tried to take their word for it; he has faced school for 7 months, being bullied. Yes, he swore, it wasn't right, I know, but I didn't punish him, I'm okay with you thinking that I should, but I physically can't - my son is absolutely broken.

Please help, what would you do? :(

OP posts:
HelenaDove · 07/05/2016 17:54

His art work is astounding OP At his age i was drawing matchstick men.

I could still only manage that now.

Gruffalosgrandma · 07/05/2016 17:57

What a great idea Shouldwe.

ShinyShinyShiny · 07/05/2016 18:22

His artwork is incredible, I had to re-read your OP to check his age and I thought I must have misread and he was much older. He is so talented!

You've handled the situation brilliantly, I'm disgusted at the school but so pleased that your son is feeling happier already. You're clearly a great Mum.

starry0ne · 07/05/2016 18:41

Well done OP on how you have handled this..You have already had some great advice on this thread.

I would add. Don't read too much into an Ofsted report.. Do you look and talk to schools that have a place your DS could take.. Talk about pastoral care , bullying ( although I think till you are in the situation you don't ever find out how it is handled) ..Don't exclude any till you visited..You son needs a school that can help him heal not the greatest ofsted report.

We have one outstanding school where we live.. They get great academic results however they are known locally as useless for dealing with bullies and children are removed in the end..

I would also definitely look at a school with great arts...He is very talented..

I did art therapy many years ago... I think in some ways just giving him the equipment to paint will be therapeutic.. It is about getting feelings out on paper.. It was usually discussed but when i did it..It was about getting feelings out.

MintJulip · 07/05/2016 19:00

Does anyone know if he could get art scholarship somewhere?

mygorgeousmilo · 07/05/2016 19:03

I would remove him, the trust in the teachers and ethos of the school has been irreparably damaged. He genuinely isn't safe there, which is a sad thing to have to say. I would draft a letter of reasons, outline every single point and detail clearly, don't leave anything out. Email it to the headteacher and all the appropriate authorities, do not go in just to be traumatised on Monday. It's over with this school, they have been appalling. It's best to move him while he still is only in year 7, to start afresh. One thing to take away from this whole sorry mess, is the lovely relationship that he has with you, and effectively he has trusted you to protect his mental health. Sending him back into that hell hole could affect both his mental health, his future relationships, and potentially his relationship with you. Show him that you don't negotiate with horrible bastards, and that his safety is more important than anything. Poor love, my eyes are stinging thinking about what he's going through. You too, OP

mygorgeousmilo · 07/05/2016 19:10

Ah and to add, I looked back through, having seen all of the comments on art - his artwork is fantastic! I think at this level there is surely potential for entry into an art focused school. In the meantime, maybe buy him some lovely new art things to cheer him up and give him something to focus on, while you hunt for a new school. Sending love X

Italiangreyhound · 07/05/2016 19:11

shouldwestayorshouldwego re "Your son's art work is amazing. I would get him to research amateur art exhibition"

Youarenotkiddingme Re "Just ring your ds in as sick with MH difficulties - get GP to back it up. That will have far more affect on school than de regging him - plus zero affect on you or your DS as you still aren't in that environment." That sounds like a brilliant idea. This is when Mumsnet comes into its own!

and *Youarenotkiddingme Re "Your DS is an amazing artist. I like the idea of scholoarships to private school." What a good idea. Although be careful not to put too much pressure on him and his art i he loves it and does it for fun.

Baconyum "Sadly it does happen in other countries, but some other countries handle it better." I agree but have not stats to back it up. My friend is in Sweden and her kid's school is more laid back which I think might help!

Italiangreyhound · 07/05/2016 19:12

Sorry, I meant I really agree with that fabulous idea from shouldwestayorshouldwego.

Shannaratiger · 07/05/2016 19:16

Take him out - change schools / home ed. The school are completely failing in their duty of care.

HPandBaconSandwiches · 07/05/2016 19:46

Just read this whole thread and wanted to pass on my support for your amazing response OP. Your son has been going through hell, but my goodness he is a lucky boy having you as his mum.

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CharlieJamie · 07/05/2016 19:52

Thank you Cake

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annielouise · 07/05/2016 20:03

Italiangreyhound - thanks for your kind words. This all happened many years ago and there don't seem to be any lasting effects, thankfully.

Charlie - your DS's art work is amazing. He sounds a happy, talented kid - just the type bullies like to pick on. His courage is amazing. Don't forget he stuck up for himself and defended himself. He'll be fine. I wish him every happiness at his next school. I think you've got him out in time as the school would start blaming him from now on for reacting - oh, he's got anger problems, oh he's hit so and so (in self-defence), oh, he's far too sensitive and reactive, oh, we've punished him as it's unclear who is starting it, etc etc. I'm angry for you but you can move on from this and he'll be happy.

ExasperatedAlmostAlways · 07/05/2016 20:35

This is a shocking thread I cannot believe the way your son has been treated and the way the school has dealt with it.

His art works amazing and I'm sure now he's leaving and with you behind him he will do well in the future.

Baconyum · 08/05/2016 03:22

Op I have a friend I love dearly who does portraiture as a business, and your boys art is just as good if not better. Regardless of all the other crap I really hope he goes on to be a successful professional artist he clearly has the talent!

Good luck for whatever you do on Monday to get him out of this dreadful school!

bruffin · 08/05/2016 17:53

Why dont you see if you can get him an art scholarship if you go down the private root.

Madeyemoodysmum · 08/05/2016 20:16

Great idea Bruffin. Op his art is fab. Well above his age I'm glad you have removed him from that pit of a school!!

CharlieJamie · 08/05/2016 20:17

Wow, thank you all Smile

I never knew they did art scholarships!

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midlifehope · 08/05/2016 20:32

This is shocking. Please pull him out. The teachers sound useless. I would hate to see anyone treated like that!!

bruffin · 08/05/2016 20:34

Haileybury in Hertford do art scholarships at 11+ and 13+ so assume other schools must.

YorkieDorkie · 08/05/2016 20:49

Can you report the school to the LEA and Ofsted? Your child isn't safe there and their policy for bullying clearly is ineffective! I'd be making an absolute STINK about this and demanding answers face to face with the head.

It's also possible to involve the police if you believe your child is in danger which it sounds like he is. I really hope you can get this resolved.

GeekLove · 09/05/2016 08:24

How is your son today? I hope he knows that he's not going into school today? I think you are doing great. Hope that the visit to the police station goes well.
Bet he is glad he can relax and enjoy the weather.

var123 · 09/05/2016 09:00

It looks like you are going in a different direction re: education. however, if you want to look into state schools, then I found that I got better results when I phoned the schools' main number and asked to be put through to "whoever deals with admissions".
Ask for the person's name, just in case they aren't at their desk. It will cut down time when you have to call back.

Sometimes, you'll be told that the LEA handles admissions now, but just reply that you know about this, but its very slow and bureaucratic, so you just want to find out if there is a place before you contact the LEA to make an application.

When you get through to the admissions person you can ask for a tour, and then on the tour you can explain about the reasons behind the move and ask what support they can give to settle your DS in the new school.

I had to change primary school (not because of bullying). Its like looking for a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent school with not one, but, two free places in the right years. I must have made about 100 of those calls described above, so i can vouch that they work.

var123 · 09/05/2016 09:03

I don't think you can report a school to Ofsted, can you??
You can give a bad review on parentview, but if you actually contact OFSTED, they'll ask if you followed the school's complaints procedures first (1. HOY, 2. HT, 3. governors) and they won't listen until you've exhausted that

Beeziekn33ze · 09/05/2016 10:29

OP - just a passing thought. When you find a suitable school for your son it may be better not to wait until September for him to start, there's so much going on then. Possibly a couple of weeks or more in school at the end of term will make things easier for him, then he won't be 'the new boy in Y8' in September. Also he'll be familiar with the building and the routine.
The pressure is high at the beginning of term whereas the last half term in the summer can be more relaxed as things wind down with trips, and sports. Also school leavers often don't come in much after exams so there are less people around and teachers may have more time to notice and get to know him.
Whatever you do, all the best to you both, sorry you've experienced such an uncaring, toxic school.

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