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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To remind you that Mumsnet is not private?

246 replies

SwearyKnickers · 27/04/2016 18:03

and if you don't believe me, click here

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MarthaCuntyMcCuntFace · 28/04/2016 07:11

a note at the bottom of your posts to say details slightly changed for the Dailyfailure? That way people know your not a troll.

WhatTheActualFugg · 28/04/2016 07:20

I did think about writing this at the bottom of a post last night.

WARNING: DAILY FUCKING FAILERS CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF TO FUCKSVILLE

I thought it could be a permanent Fugg footer. But then I bottled it. I thought it might upset/confused/offend the other posters.

MarthaCuntyMcCuntFace · 28/04/2016 08:05

It might catch on.

That way you are taking back some control.

maybe just bog off daily fail. Do some proper journalism.

That way not offended anyone and users can always ask what you mean. The more daily fail is mentioned the less likely they are to cut and paste the article.

TooLazyToWriteMyOwnFuckinPiece · 28/04/2016 08:06

I like it, Fug. At the very least it would slow them down when copying and pasting, to give them the semblance of actually working for a living.

PaulDacreIsStillACunt · 28/04/2016 09:09

Following DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts' excellent advice, I thought a really good NN change would be to:

PaulDacreIsACunt

Imagine my joy Smile and delight Grin to discover it's already been taken.

Flowers and Wine

Hence my modified NN change Grin

WhatTheActualFugg · 28/04/2016 09:38

Yes MarthaCunty, I could tone it down and refrain from being quite so offensive. That would make a nice change.

shonasybarbaric · 28/04/2016 10:08

Am wondering if DM are planting sleeper cells in baby groups so they can then wire juicy copy straight from there to the office!

MarthaCuntyMcCuntFace · 28/04/2016 12:02

Yes cuntyMcCunt face is giving advice about being less offensive.

WhatTheActualFugg · 28/04/2016 12:04

Oh I wasn't being sarcastic. I really mean, "yes, good idea. That might genuinely be a novel way to approach the issue." Smile

MarthaCuntyMcCuntFace · 28/04/2016 12:55

Thanks Fugg.
It is a shame that people are stopping themselves from posting, especially if it's a sensitive issue they couldn't approach others in RL if they needed the advice.
After all that's what Mumnets says it's all about. 'Advice, support and chat'

AnotherEffingOrangeRevel · 28/04/2016 13:12

After all that's what Mumnets says it's all about. 'Advice, support and chat'

This is true. They have a thriving business though, and it is aided by publicity. Articles like the ones in DF are probably rather excellent publicity. They have to make sure it doesn't piss people off so much they stop visiting the site, but precluding that they probably benefit substantially from these articles. The individuals working for MN all seem lovely. But we mustn't forget that they are working for, and promoting, a fairly large money-making organisation, with links to big media.

DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts · 28/04/2016 13:30

Agreed Effing (love your NN BTW!)

However MN also likes to position itself as reasonably ethical and a force for good - This is my child; Nestle; Let girls be girls etc. So at some stage they are going to have to have a careful think about how they balance their commercial interests, with the best interests of the posters who use the site. After all, its the posters who make the site what it is - and who draw the advertisers in and make MN the 'voice' that it has become. They are currently skating a very fine line by encouraging people to post here for advice and support, yet throwing their hands up and keeping schtum when entire and unedited posts are lifted and published in a national newspaper.

As I have said before, I think that people (reluctantly) accept that journos will lift very newsworthy or funny threads. I was here when the Riven issue exploded into the press - and as much as she didn't want the world's news on her doorstep, it was a human interest story because David Cameron had made promises that the LA were not following through on, and her DD (and the rest of her family) was sufferrng as a result. Likewise if you get a very funny thread like penis beaker, then it's not a huge surprise that a news outlet will pick it up. However I am not sure that anyone is comfortable with a thread about a child's death being used as newspaper filler. It's all very well to primly remind people not to share identifying details - how exactly does that work in a topic like bereavement?

Not sure what the answer is TBH, but I can see a day of reckoning fast approaching where MN needs to decide where it stands in relation to the media using the site for stories - and possibly changing the site to a pay on use basis to protect posters' privacy.

StickTheDMWhereTheSunDontShine · 28/04/2016 13:43

I can understand why Prospero took iVillage to a format where you could only read one post at a time without being a paid up member, all those moons ago.

The problem with a paid for format is, how big does that fee need to be before it discourages Journobots like Martha Cliff from signing up. I suspect that would be far, far higher than most ordinary members might be able to justify. £10 per month might not deter a determined Journo, but someone already working with only £50 per week to feed and clothe a family of 4 would probably have to say no to that particular expenditure.

DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts · 28/04/2016 13:47

I know and I genuinely don't know what the answer is. I think it would be awful to have people cut off from what can be a fantastically supportive place, just because they can't afford to join Sad

MarthaCuntyMcCuntFace · 28/04/2016 14:25

I totally agree and silence speaks volumes to me but then it's easy to have morals and values as long as it's not effecting your bottom line.

Just5minswithDacreandhugeDildo · 28/04/2016 15:32

Ability to read responses only if you register would help.

WhatTheActualFugg · 28/04/2016 15:53

But being registered or not is neither here nor there. Anyone can register. Anyone can find a new email address to register with if necessary.

The only way around it is if MN could own their own content. They would probably have to sell some of it, or at least sell the ability to publish the content. Then they could have control over what and how much is replicated elsewhere.

I have no idea if this is even legally possible though.

MarthaCliff · 28/04/2016 16:00

The thread was shut down by mnhq because my fudged details didn't add up and I was deemed a troll hmm So you can't win really.

I'm consistent with my fudging Grin

I also delete my registration from time to time and start each new account with its own unique email.

Just5minswithDacreandhugeDildo · 28/04/2016 16:07

But being registered or not is neither here nor there.

It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would make wandering over from the DM for a random stickybeak a bit hassley. And MNHQ would be able to cross-reference who had posted what (assuming the journos also troll a bit or nudge things along.)

It's two-way traffic isn't it? The DM articles probably generate quite a bit of traffic for MN.

kiwimumof2boys · 29/04/2016 11:52

www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/little-kids/79415955/why-its-perfectly-natural-to-dislike-other-peoples-children

This article in local NZ news website was based on recent thread. There have been a couple of others too.

Pico2 · 29/04/2016 17:05

That NZ posting is by a British journalist and looks like it was originally in the Telegraph. It's interesting that it is syndicated like that.

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