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Stag doo in Amsterdam

325 replies

Pixienott0005 · 18/04/2016 11:41

Is it me or would most other women feel unsettled about a shed loads of blokes getting rat arsed near the red light district?

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 18/04/2016 22:10

Vestal I think there are prostitutes in all towns and cities

What I meant by edgy is places where you might get drugs, bars that feel a bit unsafe adds to some peoples idea of enjoyment

Of course there is likely to be prostitutes around, potential clients, alcohol and drugs flowing freely is good for business

But I don't think it is quite the same as going to an open red light district where you can buy sex as simply as you can buy a packet of cigarettes, you can buy a women so easily how utterly appalling that we still accept this

LovelyFriend · 18/04/2016 22:18

I think the probability of men going on a stag do to Amsterdam and not at some point seeking out at least titillation in the red light district is pretty close to nil.

indeed! Cleary many visitors are frequenting the strip clubs and prostitutes in Amsterdam.

BitOutOfPractice · 18/04/2016 23:28

i magine it would be the relaxed laws on prostitution**

The laws on prostitution are not "relaxed". They are just different from the uk. More prescriptive than the UK's in many ways.

BitOutOfPractice · 18/04/2016 23:29

Lovelyfriend yes. And many many don't.

Alasalas2 · 19/04/2016 00:26

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SquirrelStandoff · 19/04/2016 00:34

The laws on prostitution are not "relaxed". They are just different from the uk. More prescriptive than the UK's in many ways.

Hmm By prescriptive you mean locking the stable door after the horse has bolted health and safety legislation? I mean relaxed in terms of advertising, buying and selling sexual access to prostituted people being legal.
BillSykesDog · 19/04/2016 01:08

Jesus, do people actually get stoned and look for strippers? If my DH was in Amsterdam he would get very stoned. And if he saw an Eastern European woman all vajazzled up waving her g string in the air he would just get a fit of the giggles.

Iflyaway · 19/04/2016 02:01

By prescriptive you mean locking the stable door after the horse has bolted health and safety legislation?

Whilst health and social services are readily available, sex workers are required to undergo regular health checks at the government's expense. Brothel owners and room operators often require health certificates such as the SERVSAFE test before employing or leasing rooms.
Wikipedia.

The Dutch are just a lot more pragmatic about sex and drugs than most countries. Which is why you have transparent prostitution and cannabis cafes (coffeeshops). I mean people are going to do it anyway, we might as well monitor it type of thinking.

Like many people have mentioned Amsterdam is a whole lot more than the red light district, which incidentally is a lovely area in the day time, canals and gabled houses (and really quite small). Prostitution has been going on since the city was founded cos of the maritime tradition. It hasn't always been legal of course.

British male stag do's have the worst reputation here. I fucking hope they ban those awful beer bike contraptions soon

Thing is, any guy going to step inside a prostitute's room in the RLD will have 10 thousand tourists looking on most probably taking photos Grin.

Yes, I think it's grim. And so are those kind of stag do's. (anywhere!). I have no moral qualms though about a woman choosing to go into the sex trade.

Incidentally, watched a Stacey Dooley doc. on Prague stag do's on Youtube.. Ugh.

ApplePaltrow sums up the real Amsterdam.

Tezza1 · 19/04/2016 02:21

I'm not a man, but the idea of a stag night, or drunken hen's night with stripper, would be pure hell for me. That being said, I love Amsterdam and have visited several times - I live 16000 kms away (should never have watched Barry Foster in "Van der Valk when I was a kid), and think it would provide a perfect weekend away, providing something for everyone, especially those interested in more than the Red Light district - great food, museums, interesting atmosphere, friendly people.

I honestly can't understand why you would fork out a fair amount of money to travel to a lovely place like Amsterdam and then just get drunk and visit prostitutes when you could do it cheaper a couple of town away. You don't have travel if you want a sleasy occasion.

Anyway, trust is the issue here.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/04/2016 06:32

Yes yes they'll be going to the museum and the boat with the stray cats on it.

TheDowagerCuntess · 19/04/2016 07:06

You don't have travel if you want a sleasy occasion.

No, but the sensible sleaze probably would. Less chance of running into the cousin-in-law / Phil from accounts.

SimpleSimonThePieMan · 19/04/2016 07:10

In my experience of European stag weekends you tend to get a few guys who aren't really up for it and will just sit in the strip club drinking a couple of beers. Out of a group of 15 there's generally 3-5 of us. The rest are just fucking animals, but I won't go into detail.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/04/2016 07:46

Simplesimon you do seem to be enjoying the salaciousness a bit too much on this thread.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/04/2016 07:46

I mainly refer to your post about Prague

GarthNader · 19/04/2016 08:05

I wouldn't cheat on my wife anywhere and that obviously includes Amsterdam, but then I wouldn't choose to put myself somewhere, like Amsterdam, that would upset my wife.
I think that unless your DP is a scumbag, and you probably already know that, then he'll be fine.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/04/2016 08:21

Ah the contrast Grin

SquirrelStandoff · 19/04/2016 08:28

I think that unless your DP is a scumbag, and you probably already know that, then he'll be fine.

I think partners of scumbags probably don't know that... They just blinkeredly trust 100% because... er ... just because... er.. because they trust them 100%.... because trust is something you just do like turn a blind eye to their misogynistic porn consumption habit isn't it?

MrNoseybonk · 19/04/2016 09:05

"My DH has been in strip clubs and told me he doesn't like them"

Oh the naivety of some people Halo

GarthNader · 19/04/2016 09:10

I didn't see any mention of porn in this thread, squirrel, so I'm unsure what you are referring to but by your rationale you too are not to be trusted because nobody is 100% trustworthy.
You cannot tarnish all men with the same brush. Women cheat too.
Sometimes you do have to trust people or just have the lack of trust build up inside you until it causes an even bigger problem. My wife has gone on holiday many times with a male friend of hers from school. Could she cheat? Yes. Did she? No. I trust her, she trusts me and we are free to do our own thing because we wouldn't break boundaries that would upset the other.
I do agree with you though that a stag doo in Amsterdam is probably leaning towards doing seedy things and some of the descriptions in this thread are quite disturbing, although I'm a bit of a prude. My stag doo was a meal with my dad, cousins and a couple of friends at a local restaurant followed by going home with a friend and sitting drinking brandy until we feel asleep.

kali110 · 19/04/2016 09:13

My god all the sarcy posts to people just because they trust their partner not to cheat Confused
I wouldn't have a problem either, i know my partner wouldn't cheat. He doesn't like strip clubs, even though i've never stopped him going to one!
I don't have a problem with strip clubs, my dp however doesn't see the point of them and never partakes.
You know not all men cheat or want to go to strip clubs?
Just like not all women like going to strip clubs in their hen dos?
squirrel really don't know know what strip clubs you or your dp go to, but that certainly isn't the experience i've had, and yes i've watched private dances!
The men actually have to sit on their hands, any touching of the girls and they're out, in reputable ones anyway.
If my dpa mate wanted to go to amsterdam for his stag do it would be for the weed.
He certainly wouldn't cheat on his fiance.
Some men do respect their partners.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/04/2016 09:16

The men actually have to sit on their hands, any touching of the girls and they're out

oh well that's fine then Hmm

SquirrelStandoff · 19/04/2016 09:34

My god all the sarcy posts to people just because they trust their partner not to cheat

Go ahead- clutch those pearls kali Wink

SquirrelStandoff · 19/04/2016 09:43

any touching of the girls and they're out
Which implies that throwing out (for touching) occurs, surely?

SimpleSimonThePieMan · 19/04/2016 10:06

My DH has been in strip clubs and told me he doesn't like them

Oh the naivety of some people

How so? Not all men like strip clubs. They're really not my bag and I know a few other guys who feel similarly. Conversely I know someone who spends shed loads in strip clubs, his wife has no idea.

MrNoseybonk · 19/04/2016 10:09

How so? Not all men like strip clubs.

I know that, but just read the Relationships board where men are caught with porn or hook up sites on their phone and tell their wives "it's a pop up, I don't even ike porn" etc.
Of course they say that, if that's what their wives want to hear.