To be angry to find so many threads on fights regarding house chores

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I think it should be regarded a national emergency considering the distress it's causing to at least half the population (women mostly) and definitely the stress extends to men.
MNHQ and JUSTINE
see I think we can actually use Mumsnet as a platform for starting a campaign for this? It can involve academics, funding (Mumsnet can help with that perhaps?) and of course lots of coverage/campaign in media.
I do think that if we are finding this level of stress among mothers and women in general, it is something that must be discussed in an organised way.

'And you know what TheSolitaryWanderer, a lot of men lie. They will say anything they think you want to hear to get what they want. '

And despite that, women partner them, have children with them and complain about them. Why? If he's a manipulative liar, why stay?
It's why I have the relationships board hidden, the level of self-deception and misery just doesn't make sense to me. I'd be no help, so I leave them to it.

Because the op is on about energy levels and body stamina etc.

Which won't make an unhealthy power balance in a relationship any healthier

Honestly it's not about me. I am talking about all the threads over here on Mumsnet that frustrate me. Ok. Let me put it his way:
You have a daughter and a son. Both come back home after spending who day outside doing their study, sports, job etc. Both reach home at 6.00pm and both "look" tired. There are a few chores that need doing. Both get angry when they realise there is work to be done (doesn't matter who is assigned what that day). Now who decides which of them is more tired?
There are endless scenarios I can talk about. They involve disabilities and pregnancies and physically stressful jobs. I have free time on my hand right now but honestly not enough to write all of them.
I don't say we use an app daily. I am just saying a basic crude measurement must be done now if the problem is still so prevalent.

Oh dear

Have you been reading my thread about my half a job husband?

Exactly. If the relationship and respect between partners isn't in place no amount of scientific evidence about energy levels will be helpful.

Ok so in a cleaning firm should the male cleaners be on a higher hourly rate than a female cleaner? Your logic indicated they should.

Why are things so black and white here? The gray area is far far bigger in real life I think.

Op, not OK, sorry.

But you are BU.

I agree OP that a lot of women still do far more than their share of the housework. There actually has been a lot of research around this. And it is the same when women are feminists, simply the research shows that feminists tend to try and justify this unequal division to the researcher more than non feminists.
Every adult who is capable, should be doing their share of housework and childcare. A fair division is one that leaves both parties with the same amount of free time. I think that is very rare in practice.

OP, both of mine are shattered when they come in, comes of being ND working in an NT world. So they do nothing but bumble around for a couple of hours, go online, have a shower, a snack...
What jobs are so vital that they can't wait a couple of hours? They get done.
We avoid anger because anger leads to meltdowns and that's the road to stress and disharmony.

Honey dragon
I am not saying that exactly. Still I think you would agree that we do give lots of support to disabled people generally and justifiably so. You are getting to the point I am trying to say here : justice is more important than equality to me. Urrghhh I hate philosophy

Wow, lets all slag off OP instead of using the suggestion to provoke a discussion! Way to go, sisters!

Wasonthelist
That's unfair. I work my bones off everyday. Why did you write that?

Being single means I don't have to have any arguments about who does what. I do about 90% and pay someone to do the rest.

Wtf? Owning a uterus isn't a disability.

Why are things so black and white here? The gray area is far far bigger in real life I think.

They aren't black and white, which is exactly why your post is nonsense! With your many advanced academic degrees, you shouldn't be this confused by peoples responses.

And if you are at an airport and see a family, 9 times out of 10 it is the mother dealing with the kids. If I could be a father, I would have had lots of kids.

' There are a few chores that need doing. Both get angry when they realise there is work to be done '

Depends whose chores they are. That's why we have the clarity of who does what, with occasional indulgences that are appreciated.

'sisters'

I don't know anyone who gets angry that chores need to be done. I get angry if I am doing more than my fair share.

Cleaty
"Same amount of free time" seems very vague to me. There are people who are on their feet whole day when doing their jobs and then there are office based jobs.

If you know you're being treated with a lack of respect you don't need an app to tell you.

EveryoneElsie No one has slagged off the OP, we've all given reasoned argument as to why this idea would not work ergo the discussion. What were you expecting? To rally some of us to meet you at Downing street waving our broomsticks in the air?

It doesn't matter. Free time means time to do what you want, whether watching TV or going to the gym, or going out with friends.

That's the problem with being a feminist and being logical. Sometimes I can't support an idea that's being put forward by a women if it's illogical.
Sorry Sister Elsie.