AIBU to ask if Lord Owen is right about TTIP?

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Is former Labour Minister and SDP politician, Lord David Owen right to think that TTIP will be detrimental to the NHS?

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/06/brexit-is-necessary-to-protect-nhs-from-ttip-says-david-owen

He's been doing that since the very beginning without getting his posts deleted. I assumed this must have been something more.

Eustace2016, that is just simply offensive to label the "brexit" believers as ill-educated white van men.

Fwiw, my kings' college uncle (accepted aged 16) and a long-term supporter of the EU - has travelled extensively for 60 years and fluent in German, town councillor (alongside an immigrant) had now decided enough is enough and is actively campaigning out.

Attempting to belittle those who disagree with you as being "stupid little racists" makes your argument look petty and facile. It's as ridiculous as pro-breast feeders claiming all FF mums need is "more education".

It seems some people like dishing it out but don't like it coming back their way. Can't say I'm really surprised.

Must have been Lurked that reported me. The poster that is scared to admit he is a bloke.

Plenty has come my way, difference is I suck it up, don't go running to MN. Boo hoo.

A debate. Don't make me laugh.

You have absolutely no interest in a debate.

You and your nasty little clique are only interested in showing how vastly superior your intellect is to everyone else's is. Well, in your own minds at least.

So, who went running to MN? Scared to put your hand up because everyone hates a grass?

A debate. Don't make me laugh.

You have absolutely no interest in a debate.

Here's the thing with a debate. If you make a point, and someone responds to it, it's usually a sign of a debate if you respond back on the substance.

My response to you, on the issue of EU LGBT policy or lack thereof, at 13.52 on 13 April, is an example of something that might turn into a debate if you in turn has responded on that issue.

There is something distasteful ganging up on people.I suggest that Helpful Chap is correct,LGBT have no stake in voting for the EU to "govern us" .
I would suggest a vote to LEAVE.

Hildurodegard
YOU ARE CORRECT
To label someone racist is to try and shut down debate.
It is a lazy tactic and cowardly.

Hovercraftfullofeels
Nothing was odious.You are being economical with the truth.
The "In ,out ,shake it all about ,the EU ,what's best to vote "Thread is good !masses of information posted on threads by me and others on the benefits of LEAVING the out of control ,bureaucratic ,corrupt EU.
Take a look mums.Im a mum and want out.

Hovercraft
What have you got against a mum who is protective of her children,you are always having a pop at me.All I want is to try and protect our way of life in the UK.
To have Democracy and safety is so important.I believe our only chance at regaining control of our Democracy and safety is to LEAVE.
I as a mum am entitled to my opinion and I posted many links on the "In,out,shake it all about the EU,what to vote " Thread because I made the time to help other mums who might not have the time.
You just didn't want the mums to know anything.
Why disparage me at every turn.
Give it a rest.

Nah its the only thing she can do that justifies her stance. Also, every time the brexit crowd get called out on their assertions with facts or anything that counters their opinion in a reasonable way they start to abuse others and then claim that they're being picked on.

Talk about pot/kettle

MyHovercraft and lurked complaining about posters ganging up.

You couldn't make it up.

Jassy Radlett

Didn't see your LGBT comment sorry. I don't have time to read every comment slagging me off on here or those from the Dairy Troika patting each other on the back about how clever they have been.

I just pop in every now and again, see what patronising remarks have been made and occasionally post.

Are Hovercraft and Lurked still refusing to admit they are men?

Who said I'm a man?

Great to know thats your only response.

Just read you point Jassy. I suppose it begs the question why is the EU so keen to implement uniform rules on all nations on some issues and not on LGBT rights.

They are prioritising their issues. LGBT rights are at the bottom of the pile.

Lurked - you are man. No need to be ashamed or embarrassed about it. Lots of us are.

Go further - look beyond all media reporting to the source material wherever possible

Yes of course that's what I said

Local news is also a good place to get news/stories, before they get to the main stream but even then, one must read with caution.

But there is nothing wrong with linking from the Express, mail and so on, if there is something in them.

I have even been known to link to the Guardian

MyHovercraft

It tells us something about your character.

Or lack of.

I want mums (and, more importantly, everyone) to know the full facts of the issue so that they can make an educated and informed decision what the vote comes

Full Facts?

Can you fill me in please on how Europe will cope with the migrant crisis this summer?

Can you also tell me where you buy your crystal balls from, for your facts.