AIBU to ask if Lord Owen is right about TTIP?

[SpringingIntoAction]

Is former Labour Minister and SDP politician, Lord David Owen right to think that TTIP will be detrimental to the NHS?

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/06/brexit-is-necessary-to-protect-nhs-from-ttip-says-david-owen

[butteredmuffin]

If you care about your children, please vote remain, and for the love of God, please don't try to help them with their maths homework.

[butteredmuffin]

Put it this way, if you found my observation that half the voting population is of below average intelligence "shocking", you would struggle to pass GCSE maths.

[butteredmuffin]

Have you figured out how averages work yet, StepIntoTheLight?

[StepintotheLightleave]

Have you considered a political career in Zimbabwe? I hear they'll be due an election literally any moment now! None of that pesky "wrong voters" nonsense going on there

Following the political silencing of those whose views do not align with your own, and then the removal of the vote from those deemed "less intelligent", will you be moving on to removing the vote from those with more than one X-chromosome?


Thank you HildurOdegard ^ this is what i also thought after reading some shocking comments above

[Daisyonthegreen]

Lurked
If you are referring to my post TuesApril 16: 18:17:15
You are extremely naieve.
Mrs Merkle has made a grave mistake and misjudged the whole situation regards mass immigration ,it has been disastrous.
Obviously we would be pressured to accept the open borders that is known as Shenghen .
With Turkey joining then we would be in even a more vulnerable situation.
Vote LEAVE is the common sense option.

[butteredmuffin]

ECHR is international rather than European in the EU sense. But yeah, he's not a fan of either. Probably because they give citizens rights and freedoms and protections which are anathema to him.

[lurked101]

Scaremongering!

[Daisyonthegreen]

To know that Turkish is to be adopted as an official EU language can only mean one thing ,Turkey will join the EU and heaven help us if we do not LEAVE the EU.
We will be forced to accept the Shenghen agreement(open borders) with potentially 500 million people having the right to come to the UK.I said POTENTIALLY but even if a fraction came we
haven't got the Infrastructure ie schools,hospitals,houses,roads.
//www.euractiv.com/section/languages-culture/news/meps-call-for-turkish-becoming-eu-language/
Vote LEAVE.

[lurked101]

He really didn't, got pulled apart by other journalists on Twitter, even his former times colleagues.

[Daisyonthegreen]

Itinery:19April 16 15 05 57 post
Exactly
Gove spoke well.

[lurked101]

Not international law. European.

[butteredmuffin]

Basically, Gove's entire political raison d'être can be summed up as "the Tories should be able to do whatever the hell they like without being constrained by any kind of international law".

[butteredmuffin]

Gove isn't bringing back anything education-wise, since he's now the justice secretary and in charge of scrapping sorry, replacing the Human Rights Act. (God help us.)

[lurked101]

Gove was economically illiterate on radio 4 today. As is comparing a trade deal with Peru and Colombia with that of the UK.

Gove is bringing back meritocracy?

Tin foil hats the lot of you.

[butteredmuffin]

In fact, the combination of the words "disablist much" and "Michael Gove is a brilliant man" in one post is now making me question whether Hildur might be a very clever parody of a typical Brexiter, and the person sitting behind that screen is actually pissing themselves laughing at all of this. If that's so, well played. If not...Jesus Christ.

[butteredmuffin]

Oh for god's sake. You are as ridiculous as he is. If you're dumb enough to take that as a compliment, knock yourself out.

[HildurOdegard]

Seriously! Did someone just use the m-word? Disablist much?

Michael Gove is a brilliant man - if you were just a little more experienced in life muffin you might understand that he intends to bring back meritcracy to education - instead of erm... perpetually "training" the "intellectually inadequate" and er... keeping them in ft education until they're say 30 or so.

[Itinerary]

Gove may have taken education in a way a lot of people didn't want, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about the EU at all. He certainly isn't a [word removed at poster's request].

Are you a fan of George Osborne?

[butteredmuffin]

Michael Gove is a moron. He was to education what Jeremy Hunt is to health. Jesus wept.

[Itinerary]

Here's a link to Gove's speech from earlier today:

EU Remain camp treating voters like children, says Gove

As the BBC page above notes: "He likened a vote to stay in the EU as a vote 'to be a hostage, locked in the boot of a car driven by others to a place and at a pace that we have no control over'."

And predictably

"George Osborne told MPs that it was an "internationally accepted principle" that EU members cannot have access to the single market without accepting the free movement of people across the union."

That myth has been addressed by Daniel Hannan MEP in his book Why Vote Leave as follows:

Countries that want free access to Europe's market of 500 million have to accept free movement.

"Nonsense. To pluck a random example, the EU just signed free-trade agreements with Colombia and Peru. No-one suggested that free movement had to be part of the deal."

"Outside of the EU, Britain might want to keep a measure of labour mobility with other EU states. But we would recover the ability to decide whom to admit and in what numbers."

[butteredmuffin]

Michael Gove? Seriously?

LOL.

[Daisyonthegreen]

Itinerary
Exactly

Plus interesting article by Mr Gove.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/he%e2%80%99s-treating-you-like-children%e2%80%99-gove-launches-unprecedented-attack-on-cameron-over-eu-vote/ar-BBrVjB8?li=BBoPRmx&ocid=mailsignoutmd