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SIL and Dogs!

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DillyDingDillyDong · 14/03/2016 11:17

NC for this. Not sure if this is more of a WWYD or possibly just a rant!

It's DS's birthday on Friday and we're having a little party in our house on Saturday. There will be about 20 adults and ten children from 1-8.

SIL doesn't have any children, quite often makes a point of saying she doesn't want any, but has two dogs. She text DH last night to see if we needed her to bring anything and DH asked if she could pick a cake up from Costco on the way to save us doing it on Friday. She replied saying that she wouldn't have room in the car for the cake with the dogs being in there.

DH replied asking why the dogs would be in the car and she replied saying that she wouldn't be able to leave them at home for the few hours she is out at the party.

DH ended up calling her up and telling her that the dogs wouldn't be able to come, she then went on to say how the weekend is her time with the dogs and she doesn't want to leave them. She also knows that we've recently had our garden done and so said it would be really nice for them to be able to play outside. He just repeated that the dogs weren't able to come as we are possibly getting a bouncy castle on the day(our friend owns one and can give it to us last minute) if the weather is ok. She accused him of making this up and that he should have made it clear the invite wasn't for the whole family before saying that if her dogs went welcome then she wouldn't be comings do then hung up. DH was just in shock and we couldn't think of anything else to say to her. If she wants to miss her nephews first birthday because she can't leave the dogs for four hours at the most despite leaving them from half seven to half seven every day at work then it's up to her.

She text me earlier to ask if DH had told me what she had said. I replied and said he had and that it was a shame for her to miss the party but the dogs can't come and we had assumed that she would have known that. She replied saying it was a shame that we didn't recognise that the dogs are part of her family. I said that I know she cares about her dogs but this is a child's party and we don't want them here for it. She has just replied with this text

"I feel like you don't realise how important they are to me. They are my family, my babies. I would never not invite DS to my house or say he wasn't welcome or suggest you leave him at home or with a sitter. I'm not going to come on Saturday. I haven't seen DSsince Christmas and was looking forward to it but it's unfair to ask me to give up time with the boys when I get to spend so little time with them as it is."

I am sat here just in disbelief. I don't even know what to say to her.

I know I'm not being unreasonable not inviting the dogs to my house. I just have no idea where to go with this now. DH is in a meeting until one so I can't even call him to tell him what's been said. My jaw is aching from my face just being like this Shock for the last ten minutes! She's always been very precious about the dogs and didn't come to a Christmas Eve thing at our old flat because we didn't have space for the dogs and all the presents were out under the tree etc. But I thought she would be a bit more reasonable about leaving them for a few hours to see DS.

Does anyone have any advice please?!

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Chippednailvarnish · 14/03/2016 13:32

They're part of the family, they like visiting and doing things and they get sad when left home alone

They also lick their own genitals, hump peoples' legs and sniff their own shit. It doesn't mean they are invited to other peoples' social events.

Cocolepew · 14/03/2016 13:35

Shes not bonkers, shes a bitch (no oun intended)

If I had taken my DDs to a party, when they were young, and there were dogs there we would have to have left. They were both terrified of dogs.

Cocolepew · 14/03/2016 13:36

Pun, not oun Hmm

flanjabelle · 14/03/2016 13:36

Wow. What a fucking cow.

KatharinaRosalie · 14/03/2016 13:36

We had some unsuccessful pregnancies before DS which she was able to understand as she found it hard to find the right breeder.

He's your only grandchild, not just a dog!"

Ok she's officially batshit. I have 2 dogs and I take them with me here and there, but not to a kids party! And she obviously is not planning to keep them on leash or at least sopervised - what exactlt is she suggesting, that you get travel cots for all your birthday guests?

MartinaJ · 14/03/2016 13:37

She also suggested that we use a whistle thing to show try and train DS.

I almost sprayed my tea on my monitor. I resisted the urge but I ended up almost choking on it.

Ruthiesj · 14/03/2016 13:38

Wow, she has some very unusual ideas about parenting versus dog ownership. I love dogs, but most rational people can see that pets and people are quite different. Apparently she has no such ability to recognise this.

I would really struggle to treat her sensitively, but then from the examples you have provided, she hasn't afforded you that respect.

Your responses have been spot on. MIL is just as ridiculous for pandering to SIL. There are appropriate and inappropriate occasions, places and situations for dogs, just as there are for children. This is an occasion appropriate for children, but not pets. No further discussion required.

aginghippy · 14/03/2016 13:38

YANBU it sounds like the whole family panders to her bizarre behaviour. I don't blame you for being sick of it all.

Why the drama? You invite her to ds's party. She asks if she can bring her dogs. You tell her the dogs can't come. She declines the invitation. That's all it needs to be.

Sorry to hear about your miscarriages Flowers

AnnaMarlowe · 14/03/2016 13:38

I was going to write a nice measures post but I have just seen your follow up re the whistle training ShockShock and her behaviour after your miscarriage ShockShockAngrySad

I'm actually quite impressed you still invite her to stuff at all.

You are right not to budge an inch on this. She can behave any way she likes in regard to her dogs but she doesn't get to manipulate her whole family to condone it.

Does this mean she will never attend another dog free occasion ever again? No weddings, Christenings, dinner parties etc etc?

That sounds a bit... Limiting.

SauvignonBlanche · 14/03/2016 13:43

I felt a little sympathy for your SIL as I remember feeling sad that I had to decline Christmas dinner at my DSis' the first year after we lost DM as the invitation didn't include the dog, BIL hates them. He's an elderly rescue dog and imagine how we'd have felt taking him to a kennel on Christmas Eve! I did shed a tear and felt some resentment towards the dog that day.Xmas Sad

Any sympathy I felt for your SIL vanished after reading the. He's your only grandchild comment that's just sick in the context of the timing.

Klaptrap · 14/03/2016 13:46

I'm a dog person (although don't have any due to work commitments) but your SIL is completely batshit! The way she acted at Christmas after your miscarriage is just... I don't have any words really!

Please don't back down.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/03/2016 13:47

he should have made it clear the invite was for the whole family ie herself,her DP, the dogs.
I was wondering if you address her Christmas cards to SiL + Family but she obviously includes her 'family' in all events so it's a given that they are family. (In her eyes)

Tell me she doesn't let them sleep on her bed, give 'kisses' and lick the plates too

She does sound, erm, hard work.

PhoenixReisling · 14/03/2016 13:48

Wow. Just wow!

Yep, batshit crazy dog lady.

I think that both your SIL and MIL have a cheek even to ask pressure you to you change the location of the party of your son's first birthday, just to accommodate two dogs Hmm.

Your SIL does not sound very nice at all.

Myfanwyprice · 14/03/2016 13:49

We recently had a birthday party for our dd at home and sent our dog off to a relatives for the day because dogs and lots of children running about don't mix!

Definitely stand your ground on this!

DartmoorDoughnut · 14/03/2016 13:51

Fucking hell!! You are SO NBU! We have two spoilt as hell, part of the family - currently asleep in the sofa - dogs who we put into kennels so we could have our DS's first birthday party at home. She's an utter bitch, probably no bad thing she can't come she'd give your DS a squeaky dog toy!

DartmoorDoughnut · 14/03/2016 13:52

On the sofa not in the sofa ...

shovetheholly · 14/03/2016 13:55

It sounds to me as though your SIL is suffering from some pronounced mental health issues around sibling rivalry and childlessness. This is not normal behaviour at all! I wonder if she is struggling to adjust to the addition to your family (and, by inference, far less happy with her own lot than she appears).

I think the first step would be to have a bit of a family discussion to reach a consensus that this is not at all normal (and I'm talking about your DH leading this, not you). Why do you guys think your MIL so willing to condone this behaviour? Does she know something more about your SIL's struggles than you do - or is she trying to preserve some kind of unhealthy but longstanding dynamic?

almostthirty · 14/03/2016 13:56

We has ds first birthday party at home and even moved our own dog to my dms for the day to save the stress for everyone including the dog she is batshit.

amarmai · 14/03/2016 13:58

this is going to go further as it's not just the 1st bday party-it's many subsequent related occasions. she seems to be competitive and is determined to win. Cd she leave the dogs with the live in bf? Shocked at the limits to which some dog people go. SIL def thinks your ds is not equal to her dogs.

IDontWantToBuildASnowman · 14/03/2016 14:00

I would just tell her that unfortunately it is very common for young children to be fearful of dogs and as this is a child's party then the needs of the children have to come first and the dogs are not welcome. She sounds unhinged though, I mean I get the whole dog baby thing I really do, but even extreme dog lovers understand that not everyone feels the same and while you may be expected to treat their dogs as part if the family if you are in THEIR home they would never assume a dog is welcome in someone elses!

CauliflowerBalti · 14/03/2016 14:02

On the whistle training your kids though... She may be onto something. My son is feral spirited and loves it when I work with my spaniel with the whistle. He joins in with her.

Why didn't I think of this when he was 2...?

NoSquirrels · 14/03/2016 14:03

Is this really true? Her behaviour sounds pretty out there, OP.

YANBU to not have the dogs at your DS's first birthday party. And she ISNBU not to come if she doesn't want to leave them. Her dogs, her family, her choice. I do actually think YABalittlebitU not to offer another option at another time to spend time with her - it would probably smooth the waters if you would just say "Do come another time when we can hang out in the garden without all the extra adults and kids around" and that would be that. However, does seem neither of you like each other enough for that so perhaps leave to your DH and back away without getting drawn in.

NeedACleverNN · 14/03/2016 14:06

When I had dogs pre children I used to take them everywhere. To my nans with me, into town etc etc.

Yet it would never cross my mind to take them to a children's party.

Sod the kids (at the time) I was more worried about the stress of my dogs.

She is completely barking.... And insensitive.

If you don't mind an argument you can be absolutely firm that no you are not moving the party, the dogs are not invited and if she doesn't come it's her loss.

If you want to keep things even, pander to her on how stressed the dogs might be with all those children running around and they might get too ruff with her fur babies..

I know which one I would do.....and it's not the nice one Grin

LaConnerie · 14/03/2016 14:08

She sounds completely unhinged. I feel quite sad for her actually - but in your shoes my sadness would definitely be felt from a long distance.

You will never be able to have a rational conversation with somebody like that so I would give up completely TBH...

NeedACleverNN · 14/03/2016 14:08

I would just tell her that unfortunately it is very common for young children to be fearful of dogs

Might work with a normal person, but I bet her response here would be "my boys are perfectly well behaved and would not scare any child"

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