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To really really hate the SNP.

385 replies

Twooter · 13/03/2016 01:13

Got that off my chest.

OP posts:
AgentCooper · 13/03/2016 13:22

They're nowhere near as odious as the Tories or UKIP, IMO, but I just don't trust them very much. Where did all the socialism come from? Before the referendum I don't know a single left-leaning person who'd have voted for them but now they're apparently the left wing choice. I've always been a leftie and I feel uncomfortable with them.

I asked both Nicola Sturgeon and Mhairi Black on MN web chats (and got in nice and early!) what contingency/disaster recovery plans would have been in place if loads of people, big chunks of communities, lost their jobs if big British businesses left after a yes vote. Neither answered my question (though MB answered a second question I asked about which student union she was member of whilst at Glasgow Uni Hmm). I just couldn't buy it - what would they, we, have done if there'd been another Thatcher/deindustrialisation situation in Scotland? My dad's village, not too far from Glasgow, never recovered after falling into almost complete male unemployment after the local pit closed.

I hear NS talking and am often impressed - I think 'good speaker, seems compassionate, seems smart' and then she says something about another push for independence and I remember 'oh yeah, that's what they're actually about.' So, to be brief, I just don't buy it.

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 13:23

There was another thread on here a while back about (bashing) the SNP. I gave my reasons for voting SNP but asked, given my circumstances as a mature student to a disabled child on a relatively low income, who I should vote for in place of SNP, for my benefit. No one could give me an answer because its pretty clear all the other parties would be to my detriment.

SheSparkles · 13/03/2016 13:28

YANBU at all

QueenLaBeefah · 13/03/2016 13:34

YANBU

Shenanagins · 13/03/2016 13:36

the absolute conformity to the party line is worrying. There seems to be no place for another opinion and that is never a good thing in a democracy.

DadThatKeepsCalm1 · 13/03/2016 13:39

They are awful, but then again most nationalism is.

originalmavis · 13/03/2016 13:42

Did I hear correctly that they are proposing another yes/no referendum soon?

What's that - if you don't get the answer you want, just keep asking until you do?

They really were the joke party when I was a kid.

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 13:46

Well I guess the ultimate answer to those of you who hate the SNP and dont like how they run their party is not to vote for them and find a party that is more in tune with your own political views. If the opposition really really dont want SNP in power then it is up to them to convince us floating SNP voters that voting for them would be a better option. Bleating SNP Bad doesn't achieve this.

QueenLaBeefah · 13/03/2016 13:47

I'd like them to concentrate on running Scotland properly and not a neverendum. Any time they balls something up they shout referendum as a deflection technique.

Theleavesonthetrees · 13/03/2016 13:50

No, you are not, I hate them too.
I work in local government and have seen the effect of cuts on vulnerable people. The SNP claim to be anti austerity but could have chosen to allow councils to raise council tax to mitigate against these cuts somewhat. Instead councils have had to raise charges for social care which hits the most vulnerable, most needy hardest. Anti austerity, pro social justice my arse.
I really find them a most dishonest, disengenuous party.

breezydoesit · 13/03/2016 13:50

I despise them too!! I am Scottish and I think they border on national socialism which is DANGEROUS!

originalmavis · 13/03/2016 13:51

Give them enough rope...

dementedma · 13/03/2016 13:55

Obsessed with referendum and control. All their MPs have to toe the party line and vote as one brainless mass. They got their referendum and the MAJORITY of Scottish people, living and working in Scotland voted no. So they ignore that, and press for another one. The GER figures were glossed over and meanwhile, our roads are appalling, education standards are slipping and SNP cry freedom and fiddle while Rome burns.

cheeseandcrackers77 · 13/03/2016 13:59

Me to OP. They disgust me and so do many of their supporters with their utter contempt they hold for the many many people who do not support them.

Wish to god FPTP was scrapped I believe they would only have gained around 24 seats at WM under porpotional representation.

I had the misfortune of working many moons ago with NS and she was ruthless person then I very much doubt she has changed, and yes I am aware the SNP is more than just about one person but her followers hang on her every word. I work with someone who adores her. I once said that N'S thinks she is better than everyone to which my work mate said "well she is" sadly this person was not joking.

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 14:00

And yet, the majority of people still seem to vote for them in the GE and the HE look like a similar result dementedma. Why is that?That must really stick in the throat of SNP haters.

QueenLaBeefah · 13/03/2016 14:04

The majority vote for SNP because Labour have imploded, lib dems have been punished for the coalition and the Tories are toxic not because the SNP are particularly amazing.

blaeberry · 13/03/2016 14:09

harassed should you vote for another party considering you have a disabled child? Well that partly depends whether you value your role as a parent if that child, if you consider you are the best person to look after their welfare and whether you would rather all her personal data (and yours) wasn't shared with every agency without your knowledge. If you do the definitely don't vote SNP,

The problem with the strong party whip is the MSPs/MPs then represent the party - they should be elected to represent their constituents.

Funinthesun15 · 13/03/2016 14:13

YANBU at all.

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 14:17

Is there any one political party who are particularly amazing? Please do share :D Id agree with the reasons for SNP's popularity does owe a degree of thanks to Labour,Lib Dems and Tories absolute uselessness. But that in itself doesnt make the case for people actively voting SNP. If SNP were equally as bad as the others mentioned I (and I suspect many more) wouldnt vote for them. The fact is im quite happy with how SNP are running Scotland. Its not perfect, and plenty room for improvement, but I look at England, and thank god I live in a SNP run Scotland. The UK has been Tory/Lab led for decades, possibly centuries and they still haven't got it right (and the Tories at the moment are fucking it up big time). So when I see what the SNP have accomplished in the 5 years they have been in majority Im quite pleased and happy to give them my further vote. And will continue to do so until another party comes along that i feel suits my views better.

QueenLaBeefah · 13/03/2016 14:18

What accomplishments?

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 14:19

If you are referring to the named person then im in favour of it. And since only about 20,000 people have bothered to sign a petition opposing it, i imagine so are the majority of the Scottish electorate.

originalmavis · 13/03/2016 14:20

Re-runs of Braveheart? I hear it's on BBC Scotland daily now. That's all they've got.

Freeeeeeeeeeduuuuuuuuuuuuum!!

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 14:26

prescription charges and tuition charges are the obvious ones that spring to my mind. If I werent to vote for SNP tho the question then begs who do i vote for?

harrasseddotcom · 13/03/2016 14:28

Re-runs of Braveheart? I hear it's on BBC Scotland daily now. That's all they've got.

Puerile much? If you really want rid of SNP then you are going to have to try harder than that.

cheeseandcrackers77 · 13/03/2016 14:34

I don't know who I will vote for in May but it will not be SNP. Our candidate is appalling but folk don't care and will vote again for a man who told a bunch of P7's when asked why he got into politics told them it was for the money. I was Shock when he said it.

I really also hate this toe the party line. How can I go to my MP or MSP with a problem that may occur directly as a consequence of an SNP policy when they can't be seen to disagree at any point on anything. It really is a controlling party. While I am no fan of David Cameron at least he let's his MP'S disagree and in the case of the EU referendum actively campaign against him.