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To really really hate the SNP.

385 replies

Twooter · 13/03/2016 01:13

Got that off my chest.

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Twooter · 15/03/2016 21:15

Would you have been as happy if she was only able to do 6, lightbulb? Do you not think that that 6 subjects at such a young age is too restrictive?

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OneMagnumisneverenough · 15/03/2016 21:35

If you don't like them don't vote for them.

Ah fuck, that's what I've been doing wrong.....

unlucky83 · 15/03/2016 21:42

My Dc's school can do 7 - by starting in S3 -choosing your Nat 5 subjects at the end of S2 - the idea though apparently is to do less.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27032316
to quote
The thinking is that by studying for 6 National 5s, rather than 7 or 8, time is freed up for the student to do things like work experience or community work - the kind of things which Curriculum for Excellence encourages. The fact a youngster might end up with fewer qualifications in S4 would be partly balanced out by the fact their general education continued into S3. It would also be possible for them to study for more National 5s in S5.
All sounds reasonable - except after you do English and maths that leaves 4 spaces - if you think you want to go on to something scientific you'd probably want to do 3 sciences -what's the best thing to do with the 4th? A language? Something arts based? Engineering?
Then if you decide science isn't actually for you -what do you do? What highers will you be able to do? You have burned your bridges somewhat...
I think doing 8 and not following the 'broad curriculum' is probably a good idea (like I said DD1 from what I could tell spent over 2hrs a week basically on You Tube - thats 85+hrs in a year...in subjects like 'business management' that were part of the broad curriculum) at least with 8 Nat 5s when you get to S5 you have more choice of highers you could do ...

OneMagnumisneverenough · 15/03/2016 21:47

and they often don't want to do more National 5s in S5 as Unis expect them to get their highers requirements for the course (sometimes 5 are required) in one sitting (S5). They wouldn't look upon doing a couple in s5 together with 3 Nat 5s and then doing some more in S6 or even doing the 5 in S6 - they's wonder why you didn't do them in S5 - the kids are screwed in every way.

EddieStobbart · 15/03/2016 22:51

I'm not sure how much has changed. My DC are in P5 and P2 at the moment and while I agree the reports are a bit meaningless, I feel the attention they get and the breadth of the ciriculum is far superior to that which I received in my tiny Scottish village school in the late 1970s/early 1980s. I know my times tables extremely well but my main memories involve just working through the textbook.

Standard grades took a while to bed down. DB is two years older than me and he sat two SG and five O grades in 1986 whereas I sat 8 O grades in 1988. My year was on the standard grade ciriculum for a while for several subjects but there was a body swerve at some point and we ended up sitting only O grades. I think the history teaching I received in S1 and S2 was really poor, I remember colouring in pictures of Highlanders in S2 and my neighbour and I pissing ourselves laughing repeating "chewy bannocks". It didn't inspire me to study further.

Seven subjects is ok I think depending on the range the school offers. DB's were English, Music, Geography, Physics, Chemistry, Maths and German. I don't think that is too limiting. He has a Oxbridge science Phd and is a professor in a science subject at an RG university (MN's favourite...) but he would stil have been able to go in another direction with those subjects.

We changed timetable just after we sat exams but only from P4 onwards i.e. after O grades, otherwise we were wasting time kicking our heels around. Seemed sensible at the time.

EddieStobbart · 15/03/2016 22:53

S4, not P4

Lululooselips · 16/03/2016 08:35

YANBU

It was supposed to be a once in a lifetime vote. Now it's a 'as many times as it takes to get a yes'
If the shoe had been on the other foot they'd never have allowed a push to a second vote.

This is a party who want to stop other MPs having a say over Scotland yet they've just voted out a change to Sunday trading in England that affects no one in Scotland.
Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites

harrasseddotcom · 16/03/2016 11:33

This is a party who want to stop other MPs having a say over Scotland yet they've just voted out a change to Sunday trading in England that affects no one in Scotland. I think you'll find it did affect people in Scotland, minutely (and apparently would have been in their favour), but still had an affect. Why is it ok when Labour or Tory MSPs vote in Westminister (which they have always done) but not ok when SNP MPs exercise the same right?

trixymalixy · 17/03/2016 13:26

Clearly Scottish education is failing when so many don't seem able to look at data such as the GERS figures for themselves. Wings wouldn't have got anywhere with his wee blue book if people could do the maths for themselves. Hope over maths we call it in our house.

OMGyoumustbekidding · 16/02/2017 21:52

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