To really really hate the SNP.

[Twooter]

Got that off my chest.

I fully support the named person scheme. It allows agencies to share information. It's s good idea.

i agree i just dont get it .they lost independence vote but still they bang on and are going to look at it again this summer to see how they can encourage in other words force us to take there vision .i mean talk about sore losers .labour are a bit of a disaster just now but no way would i ever vote snp .the scottish tories will get my vote first .

Can I have a biscuit mum?
No
Can I have a biscuit mum?
No
Can I have a biscuit mum?
No
Can I have a biscuit mum?
No
Can I...
OK have a bloody biscuit!

Mavis it's more like:
Can I have some fruit and veg?
No.
Please can I it's better for me.
No I want to keep serving chocolate.
Please can I have some veg?
No but I promise you I'll let you have a say tomorrow if you shut up.
< >
Ha fooled you here's more chocolate.
Please can I have some veg?
(Repeat ad infinitum)

Sorry peggy I missed your response - which party are you going to vote for? TIA

Ubik1 I'm not going to tell you who to vote for but I wish people would understand that to many people the SNP are not the answer to everything and really are for many people no better than labour or the conservatives.

Many people are right to criticise the SNP because far to many of their supporters are turning a blind eye to the bad policies they are turning out and seem happy to do because independence is the one and only important issue.

It isn't going to happen for sometime, if at all so really it should not be the be all and end all for everyone and we should be more concerned at how badly they are doing in many areas education, police etc.

APlace you didn't miss my response about who im going to vote for - what does it matter who I am going to vote for? this is a thread about the SNP...

ubik the named persons scheme would be fine if it was just about sharing information and not about assessing the wellbeing of children with results being recorded and shielded and that's not to mention the intrusion into families lives.

You really can't argue with SNP fanatics imo.

It's like a religious blind faith. They will not take any account of the facts. I hate the SNP, in general I would say that I am a socialist but don't affiliation to any other parties.

The SNP are the grand masters of spin. they say all the key phrases that they think will appeal but without actually defining what they mean or what they are going to do. or actually taking any positive action to deliver anything of value.

In particular the NHYes stickers totally fuck me right of. The Scottish government get the same resource allocation for the NHS as the rest of the UK does but the SNP government have not increased spending on the NHS by anywhere near the same level as E&W. Now, why would a party that says they are the ones saving the NHS do that? Why would the party dedicated to saving people from poverty and austerity massively underspend the budget put aside to do that while at the same time complaining about the rise of people having to use foodbanks? Shitey lying bastards every single one of them. Actually I take that back, some of them are just sheep.

captain
I care about education and health. Look at England: privatising health, insane junior doctor contacts and massive tuition fees. Look at Scotland: free prescriptions, not as privatised, better working conditions for doctors, free tertiary education.
So what do you think would be better someone earning £50k getting free paracetamol on the NHS or meeting targets for treating cancer and having at least a trolley available for someone about to go into cardiac arrest? (And I have to say I had to go back to that dept more than once and it was always the same.)
Did you read my consultant retired as soon as he was eligible and emigrated so he could carry on doing the job he loved as he was afraid that if he didn't retire he was going to lose his pension? - he didn't trust the SNP to give him better working conditions....
Privatisation - I give you - www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/anger-nhs-scotland-spend-more-6655152
Tuition fees ...so Scottish universities are not as well funded as their English counterparts and Scottish students are staying in Scotland but there are less places for them because the universities are taking more 'foreign' paying students to bridge the shortfall...(I came across similar 20 yrs ago in English Universities pre-tuition fees, one 'good' university I know had 60+% foreign paying students)
Do you actually know anyone involved in these sectors? Do you know what things are like on the ground? Or are you believing the SNP spin? The great headlines?
Quite honestly ANYONE would be better than the SNP - not only are they sneaky but they are incompetent too...

Not only do I know people in these sectors unlucky, I work in healthcare myself. The NHS is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and the pensions issue is a valid one, but I'd by a country mile rather have the SNP in charge of the sector than the Conservatives.

Why Captain when the SNP have increased spending at a far lower rate than the Tories have in E&W? I think it's another clever myth and spin by the SNP - the actual figures don't add up.

What's the alternative?
Willie Rennie?

When I moved to scotland it was shocking how people just voted labour and how little they got in return.

All this talk of a one party state is pretty ironic considering the labour bloc vote which served scotland so poorly over previous decades.
And I say this as a former member of the Labour Party. The lack of quality labour MSPs is shocking.

I'm Scotland's only Tory voter and I can't stand the SNP, but I was going to partly vote SNP in the forthcoming elections to try to get rid of one local Labour MSP (Neil Findlay) but then he came out top of the Labour list so there's no point in my wasting a vote on the SNP.

I think the SNP have created a two tier state education system with their Curriculum for Mediocrity and I think the Named Person is a good idea but bad legislation. I watched the court case last week and the court's probing of the QC only upheld my view.

My experience in healthcare has been on the receiving end - can't talk about England recently but can say I have never experienced as bad there as I have in Scotland in recent years, before that it was fine (I do currently have a family member in England who is undergoing treatment for two cancers and aneurysms and they are being extremely well looked after, the only waiting is the NHS waiting for their recovery from a previous procedure rather than they having to wait for the NHS)
I do have experience in Education in Scotland - from Early years to University level and have DCs in primary and High school and teacher friends - and it is an almighty fuck up...believe me.
And have had dealings with the Police over a nightmare neighbour- they were building an harassment case. (I was scared to go outside because of him, I couldn't even hang my washing out in my back garden and in the house I'd be in a state of constant tension waiting for him to come to the door again, or going anywhere I'd be worried he'd eventually succeeded in blocking my car in as he constantly tried to - can't see it from my house, so appointments I always left 30 min early just in case). I had the contact details of a community officer and was supposed to report to them certain incidents and to keep a log.
Then the move to Police Scotland. Apparently they weren't in a position to maintain the continuity (hopefully they are better now, this was right at the start - but sums up the lack of organisation/ fore thought by the SNP which is needed to make these big changes). For just the illegal incidents all they did was send different officers out ...I would go through the background and be told I had no evidence that the latest incident was in fact the neighbour (when he had admitted doing these things to the previous officers). I felt completely abandoned and regretted ever getting the police involved as it had just made him even worse and especially as now he knew he was getting away with it - the only solution was for me to move ...
(He then died suddenly -it still took me over a year to stop feeling sick with anxiety when I got within a mile of home, dreading he'd be about and worried what the latest thing he'd done to my property was - that I should really report...but there was no point...)

YANBU to "hate" any political party you dont agree with. But the soloution is simple - dont vote for them. Not sure what you wanted people to say, or did you just want a collection of anti-SNP people all saying they hate them to?

Anyway I despise the Tories but if someone wants to vote for them thats their choice. And yet because I have voted for the SNP and will vote for them again some people that seems to get a lot of people on these anti-SNP threads really annoyed and stirred up with all the "cyber nats" type accusations and "calls".

The SNP are going to make England, Wales and NI be one party nation. There will not be enough Labour voters left. The smug SNP voters don't care about that though as Scotland is getting more control eg there welfare system will be different. It is a good thing for Scotland but very selfish

Why is it SNP voters fault for who people in the rest of the UK vote for? If there arent "enough Labour voters left" for example given the population difference between Scotland and England?

what does it matter who I am going to vote for? this is a thread about the SNP...
I explained why I thought it was relevant. If you're unhappy, it usually implies you see a better alternative or you just enjoy complaining And when it comes to politics, I think it's important to present solutions not wallow in negativity.

So whilst I understand this is the weekly monthly complain about the SNP thread, I actually did want to understand what the 'haters' (to quote Taylor Swift) think is better than the SNP but apart from Noofly admitting to being the only Tory in the village, everyone else is keeping their allegiance close to their chest. I don't understand why.

The SNP are going to make England, Wales and NI be one party nation. There will not be enough Labour voters left. = How fucking dare you not vote Labour. But lets not question why so many people in England left Labour for Tory/UKIP, its all you SNP voters fault Ive asked several times who'd be a better party to give my vote to. All I get back is dont vote for SNP. No alternatives or suggestions.

APlaceOnTheCouch to be honest I don't think of the parties are any better at this time however im not going to come onto a thread about SNP and slate the other parties.

I have twice said I don't yet know who I will vote for and will wait for the manifestos to come out.

I don't think anyone started this thread with the intention of telling folk not to vote for the SNP however I really think they need to wake up and realise not everyone is falling for their "beautiful dream".

Is Pete wishart a good enough reason to hate them, I do not know why but I want to inflict violence and I am not that sort of person.

I've given my reasons for voting Labour, and plenty others have stated their views. They're not perfect either, I've said I don't rate Kezia, but at least they're not intent on destroying our country.

I too will wait and see who has what to offer come voting time. I'd like to think that whoever I vote for would stand up for issues affecting the own constituents even if this was counter to the party line so on that basis alone it will never be SNP. I couldn't ever see myself voting Tory but maybe that's because their policies are basically the same as the SNPs but without the "independence at any cost" card. I too have a lot of respect for Ruth though. I am probably a traditional Labour supporter and if push comes to the shove it is my default vote. It also depends on whether tactical voting is likely to make a difference in keeping the SNP out. So, it's up in the air for me but I will vote and my default would be labour.

Honestly - I'm going to tactically vote to try and keep the SNP out - that's how much i dislike them ....as I said anyone would be better...
I really do despise them - I think they are fake and devious.
People are encouraged to vote for them as an alternative to the mainstream parties as a kind of protest about the other parties (I guess mainly labour in Scotland) letting us down, we don't feel represented by them -politicians - any more. And I would completely agree with that except the SNP are no different -in fact are worse...
It is a bit like saying you want to ban hunting with dogs and in order to do so you are supporting hunting with wolves instead...