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So there's apparently not an NHS anymore?

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MattDillonsPants · 12/03/2016 14:02

www.independent.co.uk/voices/terrifyingly-according-to-the-world-health-organisation-definition-the-uk-no-longer-has-a-nhs-a6923126.html

Is it so? ;(

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MattDillonsPants · 12/03/2016 14:03

I've signed the petition...there's a link.

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MattDillonsPants · 12/03/2016 14:11

Bump

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tinyterrors · 12/03/2016 15:57

I've signed the petition.

It's scary how that's happened under the radar so to speak. Without the NHS most of the country would be up a creak without a paddle. I know the NHS is struggling and imperfect but it's one of the great thing about this country.

tangerinesarenottheonlyfruit · 12/03/2016 16:02

This should not be a surprise.

In 2005, Jeremy Hunt co-authored a book Direct Democracy which called for the NHS to be dismantled.

In it, he said “Our ambition should be to break down the barriers between private and public provision, in effect denationalising the provision of health care in Britain”.

link

The future looks bleak for the UK at the moment IMO. We have to get these fuckers out in 2020.

VocationalGoat · 12/03/2016 16:04

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MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2016 16:10

Decision made. Not moving back now. Bye bye UK for ever. Sad

NewYearNewToads · 12/03/2016 16:15

What does this all mean? Sad

Cuddlequeen · 12/03/2016 16:21

Lots of different sections of the nhs have been sold off years ago and are now "social enterprises". District nursing in many areas, children's services in many areas, podiatry etc etc.

Paddypaws3 · 12/03/2016 16:23

My sister is a District Nurse.

From April, her new employer will be Virgin!

shazzarooney99 · 12/03/2016 16:27

I hate the tories, they are going to utterly kill this country, did you see that today? they are taking money off the disabled so the rich can pay less tax, absolutely appalling.

RudeElf · 12/03/2016 16:27

What does this mean in real terms for anyone who doesnt have private health plans? Will we have to pay for GP appointments? What about hospital services?

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 12/03/2016 16:33

I remember years ago a HV telling me that in the future HV's would be employed by companies like Boots. Looks like it's happening Sad

Maybe83 · 12/03/2016 16:36

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hiddenhome2 · 12/03/2016 16:37

No amount of petitioning is going to change anything. We're fucked.

VertigoNun · 12/03/2016 16:41

I am sure the Tory voters are thrilled with themselves.

ClarenceTheLion · 12/03/2016 16:44

I have two health issues, both of which I deal with myself. I'm unable to absorb the regular levothyroxine pills for underactive thyroid, so with my GPs approval I order my own medication from Mexico.

And I have an ongoing neck problem which my GP wished me luck with. He wouldn't refer me to the NHS physios because 'they're rubbish and I don't refer anyone to them anymore'. But he was happy to recommend private physios at £75 an hour.

Sometimes I wonder if a private healthcare plan set up in my twenties might have served me better...

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 12/03/2016 16:45

Well done Tory voters you bunch of "I'm alright jack" tossers.

getyourselfchecked · 12/03/2016 16:52

THIS is what the doctors have been protesting against.

Follyfoot · 12/03/2016 16:56

Its not as simple as Tories v Labour is it though? I'm not convinced any party can keep the NHS safe. Look at the amout of PFI hospital builds under Labour and how Andy Burnham put Hinchingbrooke Hospital 'up for sale' into private hands despite trying to squirm his way out of admitting it. I really fear for the NHS, it isnt safe in the hands of either of the two biggest parties Sad

MrsVamos · 12/03/2016 16:59

More depressing news.

People tried to warn what would happen if the Cuntservatives were let in to govern on their own.

I honestly can't quite bring myself to believe that this, and the disability cuts, and education cuts etc etc, were really what people voted for.

I know that it was a very tiny majority that got the Cunts back in, but really ? Really ? Sad

And as I type, 'Mad World' is playing on the tv....

tinyterrors · 12/03/2016 17:00

It might not change anything, then again it might. At least we can say we tried to do something.

This sort of thing is why I'll never vote tory.

Tangerine I've never heard of that book, I was a very young teen in 2005, but I'll have a read.

I know from relatives working for the NHS that far too much money gets wasted on ever increasing middle management to the detriment of front line staff, add in the cut backs to funding and it's no wonder the NHS has problems.

cleaty · 12/03/2016 17:03

My partner who used to work for the NHS is now providing the same service and is employed by Virgin. It is still presented to patients as an NHS service. The service is organised for profit, not for patients. Although it will all look good on paper.

ScoutsMam · 12/03/2016 17:11

Signed and shared.

RudeElf · 12/03/2016 17:11

Who pays for the service cleaty? I am assuming its still free at point of use for patients?

Viviennemary · 12/03/2016 17:13

I don't think the NHS can continue in its present form. With no comeback for missed hospital appointments and ever widening demand for NHS services. People don't appreciate the NHS because it's free (which of course it is not) and it's also unfair that the standard of service varies so much depending on which part of the country you live in. I wouldn't object to a charge of say £10 for GP's appoinments. Excluding children and chronically sick.