to think this might be a child protection/safe guarding issue?

[thickgit]

There's a nursery close by to me. Today, they were playing outside. I very clearly saw male nursery worker laying on his back on the ground, leaning up a bit on his elbows. One girl was laying on her front, on him. Another girl was laying on him, more on his chest.
It looked inappropriate to me so I immediately called nursery and told manager to go outside and see. She was more interested in knowing who I was.

I called back ten minutes later to give her my number. She wanted my name. I wouldn't give it. She was very defensive about the scenario and just wanted to know if I would feel the same if it was a woman. I explained that I've worked in nurseries and would not let children lay on me like this. She said other workers were out there, so she had no issue with it.
What are your thoughts?

You need to call CSC now, that man is a major peadophile, its so wrong for a man to play with children one2one...

I mean my dh rolls around the floor with our boys... gid help them...

Not the old penis is like an unexploded bomb nonsense again.

"I have a fit of the vapours if I realise that someone standing in my vicinity has a penis"

You're right, the child isn't aware that he has a penis, but he is. So, what if a child was poking at his penis. . . It's no different to a leg or an arm right? What, is the worker supposed to allow that innocent play to continue, or would it be sensible, to protect himself if nothing else, to re direct that play.

I would be uncomfortable with that too. They're nursery workers not family. That degree of physical relationship is one that my kids have with me and DH and ... no-one else actually. A child sitting on a carer's lap, yes. Having a cuddle, yes. Lying around on top of them, not really.

(All the carers at DD nursery are female, that makes no difference as far as I'm concerned.)

It's great that the children are fond of this carer. But I feel like OP that there's a boundary crossed here. DD is very fond of her nursery carers but lie on them? No. She wouldn't do that and they wouldn't allow it if she wanted to. Her very lovely childminder wouldn't either. It's a family sort of thing.

I think dwelling on kids bouncing on laps and touching penises is somewhat prurient and uncalled for tbh.

To bring it right back. . . What I was trying to ask is, seeing as I got the response I did from management, do you think I should let some relevant body know so that they can teach the staff to have safer boundaries so that they can safeguard themselves and the children.

And forget the grammar. Who gives a toss. I clearly know I'm thick, and I couldn't give two hoots.

I really do wonder if it was his kid...

Not possible, unless adopted or step child

I think you're over reacting here OP. And I do think you were well intentioned. But asking who you should take it further to seems a bit much. if you've worked in childcare, then you shouldn't be surprised by the managers reaction - you would have sounded just like a slightly eccentric individual, especially with the second call.

Teachers and play school workers can't do right for doing wrong. They have no physical contact with children, they're not engaging. They have physical contact with children, and worries like yours appear.

No you shouldn't. Leave them the fuck alone.

They've assessed the risk differently to the one you have based on your overzealous safeguarding training. There's nothing wrong with it. If you don't like it personally, then don't send your children there. But that is as far as your involvement in the situation goes and should go.

The general concensus is that I'm over reacting. Thank you to the constructive posts. It appears it's not necessary to take this any further. I wish the manager had been more receptive.
I'm still in two minds. It just doesn't sit right with me.

Pretty stupid thing of the man to do, really. Unnecessary, and leaves himself wide open to interpretations such as the OP's.

Can't imagine any man I know thinking that was a good idea.

I'm not saying that his intentions were wrong. . . How would I know that. I'm saying it's not sensible, not appropriate.

So you're worried, shock horror, that it's also a GAY penis!?

Faints!

Unless that's not what you meant when you said it would have to be adopted or a step child, both of which aren't exactly unheard of.

What on earth are you talking about? Someone said she's sure it's his kid. I said not possible, unless child is adopted or a step child. They are completely different colours. Ffs.

I was lying on the floor at nursery today and yesterday and last week. Sometimes Nursery Nurses have to (whether we want to or not) depending on the song we are singing. Bedtime songs usually request us to lie down. I am going to face a hard and painful death at the hands of the authorities aren't I? OMG!! Nursery Nurses shouldn't actually play with children...Should they?? :o Or does that only apply if the Nursery Nurse has a penis??

You're right, the child isn't aware that he has a penis, but he is. So, what if a child was poking at his penis

Oh give over. This is a very different situation to what you've described too. You're asking here "would you think it was ok if a nursery worker allowed a child to repeatedly poke him in the penis?" No, none of us would and everyone would expect him to stop the child doing it and make another member of staff aware of the behaviour in order to protect himself. But that isn't what you saw so please stop asking about what we'd think about scenarios that are clearly very wrong as if they're comparable.

Great, I would hope so too. But I would also hope you wouldn't lay there with a child on top of you, their full length on top of your full length, even with your vagina. I'd like to think that you would roll over, or sit up and continue play.

I don't see a massive difference between poking at a penis and lying on top of one. Both cases the child is perfectly innocent, both cases I believe to be inappropriate and preventable

The 'omg just because he's got a penis' brigade are just as stupid as the 'every man is a paedophile' brigade.

You might not share them, but laughing at other people's concerns makes you sound thick.

thick when I'm playing with a child, my vagina doesn't factor into it. I literally do not think about it at all. This is why I see absolutely no issue with a child lying on an adult. It's a non issue. Everyone has clothes on.

I'm going to go out on a whim and say you've hugged women before? By your logic, it makes no odds that you were clothed and nothing was sexual. It was inappropriate because you've pressed your breasts against another woman's breasts.

I've worked with children, from the ages of 4 and up so older than nursery age but they still want to use you as a human climbing frame, or ride on your back and pretend you're a pony etc. During swimming sessions I'd often have two of them with their arms and legs wrapped around me, one on my back and one in front so I could give multiple piggy backs. From the way you've phrased it the guy wasn't actually touching the girls at all, they were lying on him, which not only implies but they were happy to be there, but would also suggest to me that they have a lot of trust with this chap. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Korean lady... Hmmm, you've got me thinking. I have indeed, many times, pressed my breasts against another woman's breasts. However, I hug men differently and would hold back on the breast bit lol
Still thinking here. Well, I would certainly never allow a penis to touch in a hug. Hmmm. Food for thought.