AIBU to be angry with DH for reporting my DB for benefit fraud

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Help first time post as I need some perspective please. My DH has confessed to me that he has recently reported my DB for benefit fraud.

We have both suspected for some time that this is the case as he is a single father and seems to have alot of excess income. Think haircuts, tattoos, new clothes weekly nights out etc. He has never worked and has just booked a holiday and is saving to get married to his new partner - they don't currently live together.

We don't have any proof but DH reasons that if we suspect we should report. I can't help feeling angry that he has done this. If my DB isn't defrauding the system he has nothing to worry about but it will probably result in a suspension of benefit and worry. Also I am worried about the implications for my DN etc

It's virtually impossible to save on benefits, you don't have enough to cover basics.

He he also aware your DH that as a result of this. Your DB will be immediately sanctioned. Which means your nephew goes with out. I hope your DH is proud. You see the unemployed don't have the same rights as rapists, peodophiles and murderers. The unemployed as guilty until proven innocent,
YDNBU for being angry. If my DP did something that was going to make my nephew suffer. I'd be nuclear.

Yes true. Maybe if the husband was that nosey and jealous, he could have maybe just erm, I don't know.........asked him! instead of reporting him with zero proof, turning the brothers life upside down and watch from afar safe in the knowledge he has caused it all. If my husband did this, I would probably leave him. But then again hes not a jealous, spiteful, coward thank fuck.

Yseulte, that still doesn't mean that he is guilty of benefit fraud! The fact that benefit is low?

YABU.

If he's claiming benefits fraudulently then I agree with some pp's that those benefits are from mine and others pay packets and frankly, he's stealing.

When fraud is investigated benefits are not stopped and the person under investigation generally knows nothing about it until there's evidence and they're called for an interview under caution. Investigations can often be carried out from behind a desk; people claiming fraudulently aren't always terribly clever at covering their tracks.

I'd probably be angry at my Dh but I'd understand why he did it.

Perhaps you can financially support your dn?

Or rather you save a bit but it's needed to cover necessities, there's no spare for holidays. I guess gf is funding that.

frika
This is a remarkably silly response. Absolutely, there are grounds from what the OP says for thinking that her DH has reported her brother baselessly out of spite, but 'don't report someone because they're family' isn't really a valid reason not to report benefit fraud if you actually have significant grounds for thinking they are claiming fraudulently.

Don't know why you felt the need to pick my post out of a bunch who said its a shitty thing to do but hey ho...

Hell no I wouldn't shop family for benefit fraud and would hate to be in a family with members who would.....rape, murder, hit-and-run, peadophilia absolutely, benefit fraud, no. I really can't see what the db could be fraudulently claiming anyway, only thing I can think of would be a false DLA claim??

Your DH is very unreasonable

when a fraud report is made people can have all their benefits SUSPENDED before the investigation finds them guilty or innocent

I would only ever report someone if I knew they were commiting fraud

People on benefits are allowed to save up to treat themselves, to make savings or sacrifices to priorities on luxuries if they want, and to accept gifts and treats and loans from others

Your sour grapes DH could cause a lot of suffering for nothing! If he wants tattoos etc too then he can prioritise his income differently too!

Give me have you ever been investigated for benefit fraud?

I have.

And my benefits WERE stopped.

And I DID know about it

Yseulte, that still doesn't mean that he is guilty of benefit fraud! The fact that benefit is low?

I'd didn't say it did.

I'm on the fence. if your dh felt it's something he needed to do then fair enough - if db is committing benefit fraud then it will be found out.

I've been sanctioned until benefits were sorted out against wrongful assumption which I proved was wrong. It was awful and racked up debts but I kind of accept it as part of being on benefits.

It's made me and dp work bloody hard to ensure we don't need to reply on them

I just cannot see what benefits he could be fraudulently claiming.

I wouldn't report my worse enemy for benefit fraud. As far as I'm concerned. People do what they have to. It's called survival.

Of that benefits list only JSA and child benefit are actual income.

Housing benefit - some or all your rent is covered, council tax relief just means you don't pay council tax, that's not disposable income.

NHS exemption is not how it sounds - eye tests & prescriptions are free but glasses are not - you get vouchers up to a certain amount( (like £30) every 2 years. Some basic dental treatment is free, but white fillings, crowns etc you have to pay for.

With children there is lots more money - tax credits and child benefit is a lot of cash on top of IS or JSA.

Also whilst housing benefit, council tax benefit, healthy start vouchers, nhs exemption isn't spare cash to spend on what you like, it is a lot of money that you would otherwise have to pay out. And the NHS exemption covers all NHS dental treatment, if you want things like white fillings that's private so you have to pay private costs (or just settle for the standard grey ones).

I do feel for you ending up on incapacity benefit - that is hard. It happened to my brother and it was really tough for him - he was used to a decent income and all his bills were based on that income. Without DC the benefits are low. To suddenly drop income is always tough.

Your DH sounds awful. God help us from people like him.How sneaky and mean to that without any proof. You DB could have won on a scratch card for all he knows. I'd be fuming.

As I said child benefit is in addition to JSA, but with a child you have a lot of extra outgoings.

With the non-income benefits, it's true that you're saved money you would have to pay if you were earning, but the reason you're exempt is because your income is so low you can't pay for it anyway.

White fillings are only 'private' treatment because they're not covered by the NHS, which was my point. Other things too, certain types of caps, of crowns etc.

Why has he never worked.
She's his sister, not his employment advisor.

Deo, I don't know if being a nasty bitch is grounds for deletion, but I have reported that comment for being deliberately goady.

For everyone one tax inspector looking at huge corporate tax avoidance there's at least ten looking at benefit fraud. Benefit fraud is less than the unclaimed benefit amount. Tax avoidance and evasion is close to £100 billion.

One has to ask whose side your DH is on...

I've had a ceroc white crown and more than one white filling free on the NHS, just as an aside.

I generally think that if you wouldn't publically admit to what you have done, then you have no business doing it. Your h should tell your brother what he did, since he thinks it was the right thing to do. Then at least your brother could prepare himself for the shitstorm about to be reigned down and you wouldn't have to lie to your brother in order to protect your weasel of a husband.

Where? TooAsWell are you in London?