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mithy · 08/03/2016 08:53

I think we're due a name change. Just looked at Relationships and 3 out of the 4 top threads are by men.

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Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2016 10:43

I think Jeff & mates probably posted a fair bit on MN before the big finale.

I am always wondering if an invasion is going on.

misshornblowerwouldbuyit · 08/03/2016 10:49

Overweight child thread was a troll? Bloody hell.
A friend I had admitted to trolling MN with a group a while back (before I knew her) and then got banned. According to her MN was "middle class hummus eating idiots" (outs self), so there you go.
She thought it was totes hilaire.

DadDadDad · 08/03/2016 11:03

What's wrong with having "Dad" in your username? Hmm

I wasn't aware that I was coming in swathes. Smile

The thing is I get a lot out of MN because of the female perspective, so paradoxically I want the site to welcome men, but also wouldn't want too many men on here.

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2016 11:05

IMO having 'Dad' in your username means you want everyone to know your are a man for whatever reason.

OhShutUpThomas · 08/03/2016 11:07

There appears to be less male traffic on AIBU, more would be better.

Why? Why aren't we allowed to have a mainly female site?

There are more male posters at the moment, yes.
Coinciding with some pretty heavy MRA trolling on the Feminism boards.

Make of that what you will.....

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 08/03/2016 11:09

They're not called Opal Fruits any more?!? Shock When did that happen?

OhShutUpThomas · 08/03/2016 11:10

Oh and all the new male posters in Relationships have been ones where the 'wife' is clearly in the wrong.

Almost like they want people to disagree with them simply because they're male.

Make of THAT what you will.

DadDadDad · 08/03/2016 11:12

Actually, one motive for putting "Dad" in my username was that it seems to me, on a site where the presumption is that a poster is female, that it's a simple way to indicate that I am a man, to avoid any misunderstanding.

Also, as this is a site for parents, it was a way to indicate my interest (a father of three).

Shutthatdoor · 08/03/2016 11:13

Oh and all the new male posters in Relationships have been ones where the 'wife' is clearly in the wrong.

'Wives' are sometimes wrong.

Women that post in relationship it is often the 'men' that are clearly in the wrong....

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2016 11:13

Your NN doesn't have to make a statement though. Most don't.

Hennifer · 08/03/2016 11:51

Your user name is fine. You are also fine. HTH.

The thing is I get a lot out of MN because of the female perspective, so paradoxically I want the site to welcome men, but also wouldn't want too many men on here

This though is the crux of it for me. This is why you have to remain in a minority for it to be viable. Besides which we really like telling you what to do Grin

LineyReborn · 08/03/2016 12:03

Women are welcome as long as they fit in

Isn't that the strapline of the planet?

DadDadDad · 08/03/2016 12:25

Thank you, Miss Hennifer, that's very kind of you. Smile

I'm looking forward to seeing how you are going to enforce a quota for the number of men on here. Some kind of points-based system? Grin

Isn't that the strapline of the planet? - in reality, isn't that the line we all tread in every social situation: how much to fit in, how much to stand out?

mithy · 08/03/2016 12:35

DadDadDad it would be interesting to get your take on the male trolling that goes on in Relationships.

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Slarti · 08/03/2016 12:42

I've always found "Mumsnet - by parents for parents" to implicitly suggest that parent is synonymous with mum. It perpetuates a stereotype, imo.

OhShutUpThomas · 08/03/2016 12:46

Really Slarti?

Well given that it's primarily a site for women, many of whom are parents, I don't feel that 'mumsnet' is a particularly poor name.
The strapline 'by parents for parents' suggests that all parents are welcome.

What's wrong with this?

DadDadDad · 08/03/2016 12:47

I don't really have a "take" on it. I know a lot of good stuff happens on Relationships in terms of people giving a lot of support and advice to people in very difficult situations. Don't the systems and good sense on there ensure that trolls do get stopped sooner or later?

If you asking me why do people (mainly men, I assume) troll a board like that, I can't offer any great insight as it's not characteristic of all men. But I guess it's part of that same problem of commenters on blogs, news websites etc: that complete anonymity removes any inhibitions to worry about the effect on other people, so they just have fun seeing how far they can push a story and still be believed?

Hennifer · 08/03/2016 12:47

I don't think I should have to enforce anything. I think it's up to you guys to know your place, really Wink

OhShutUpThomas · 08/03/2016 12:50

DadDadDad I don't have a problem with genuine male posters.
The problem is, we get a LOT of MRA trolls which tend to come in packs. There have been quite a few lately, and unfortunately it makes me suspicious of male posters in general.

TooMuchOfEverything · 08/03/2016 12:51

Let's call it BejamNet. I miss the Bejam brand.

Hennifer · 08/03/2016 12:53

No, they're not just trying their luck, they're angry. No one trolls unless they are angry with the stereotype they believe the other party to represent.

When I take the piss out of someone who's posted here, (this is fairly unusual, for me) it's because I hate what I think they represent. In a sense I want to bully them into submission, and make them feel wrong for saying what they have said.

I can imagine this is a similar thing for the ones who come here to take the piss. They think of us as broadly a collective of [insert stereotype/prejudice] and they want to shut us up, and to get a sense of validity from the approval of their comrades.

Sometimes they realise by our responses that they were wrong, and sometimes they even apologise. Other times they just get banned.

Hennifer · 08/03/2016 12:54

Oh the make believe trolls are a bit different - sometimes that's what I described, I think, but other times it's a mental disorder or some other weirdness showing itself.

kawliga · 08/03/2016 12:56

We need more men on mumsnet, so they can mansplain things to us. Just think how awful it would be on here without men. We would never understand anything clearly and logically. We'd all get tied up in a hysterical fog, shouting LTB without thinking. Thank God for the menz, I say. Without them, how would we learn to calm down and engage our brains?

DadDadDad · 08/03/2016 13:04

Without them, how would we learn to calm down and engage our brains?

Well, kawliga, I would explain it to you, but I worry it will go over your head, and then you'll get all emotional...

Owllady · 08/03/2016 13:05

I don't believe these posters who say they are men
Surely the posts would be short and to the point

Daddaddad, you are a man?

Ddd. Yes

This is how it works when you live with an engineer and teenage boys. Main reply to text or email
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