To think there is very little benefit in earning more than 50k

[ReallyTired]

Loss of child benefit and now reduction in pension tax relief makes hardly worth bursting a gut to earn over 50k. People who earn just over 50k are generally the work horses in skilled jobs that ecomony needs to grow. Given that such people will be saddled with high student loans in the future, what will senior teachers, doctors gain from all their hard work?

I think that when it comes to severely disabled children an expression comes to mind "For the grace of God go I."

Unless you have a child with severe special needs you cannot predict what decisions you would make. I imagine that having a child with severe disablities or cancer would make someone completely evalutate their priorities.

Even the super rich suffer pain when a child dies. No amount of money can bring a child back from the dead.

Deo

Just for you.

Its ironic how Deo in real life is supposed to be a high flyer and well thought of, when on here she fails to persuade almost anyone to come round to her way of thinking.

Fantasy, or maybe she just got lucky.

lurked
Deo is genuinely successful and I expect what she says about her income is true.

She might be, but her inability to present her argument convincingly here suggests that it might not all be down to ability.

I'm successful in my field (once again proved by this weeks OFSTED) , I earn a considerable amount, I own property that has extremely high values, and I have cash investments worth quite a lot of money. You don't her me banging on about it all the time, or making out that it is all down to my choices and hard work. I'm well aware that there are other elements are at work in my fortune.

Deo seems not to be and takes the rather self satisfied approach towards pontificating about it. On top of that her attitude towards others is judgmental and condescending which demonstrates a lack of at least emotional intelligence.

Thing is with online forums we could all be a pack of liars. There is no way of knowing who anyone is, yet alone if they are telling the truth.

Congratuatlions Lurked101, I'm glad that the OFSTED inspection went well.

I feel its wrong to value someone by their pay packet or value of investments or property they own.

I'm sure Deo is genuine. The newspaper articles and youtube backs that up. That's why i'm surprised how openly she posts about herself. I like my anonymity on here.

Gosh who is she? Intrigued

I'd never out someone on here whether i think they are an ass or not.

lurked, I tried to pm you but it says you aren't accepting.

Didn't ask for outing just intrigued.

TBH I think it would be a let down, I think she's probably some dreary middle class London solicitor or something along those lines.

Deo is indeed very well thought of professionally, I'd certainly use her if I ever needed a solicitor dealing with that area of law, but that doesn't have any bearing on whether she knows what she's talking about in other areas. You don't need to be qualified to comment on eg social mobility in order to be an excellent commercial lawyer, or vice versa. Indeed there's no reason for an excellent commercial lawyer to be even listened to on a subject on which they have no expertise, let alone presumed to have any awareness. In the same way I don't expect a mechanic to be a repository of knowledge on pensions funding, my dentist to know anything about tackling ISIS or someone dealing with mergers and acquisitions in the City to have the first idea about the most effective methods of early intervention.

Deep has always been well known and is a very long standing poster.
And yes she is also well thought about professionally.

But tbh, im or sure what it has to do with what she is writing on here. You can agree or disagree.

And having very set pov on here doesn't mean been as rigid in RL. Actually she is quite well known to put things in a very crude manner in here when she will never do that in RL.

Maybe remember that people do not show their full persona here, you just have a snapshot and some people will not care about keeping up a pretence on MN. (Ie their persona here is NOT what it is in RL)

lurked

You didn't need any help, you found for yourself.

My pm wasn't to say who deo is btw, although I know as she was outed last year sometime.

Jizzy
Totally agree.

Ah Deo with your last post I rather suspect I "know" who you are, and your smugness disappoints me.

Even those of us who have worked hard to achieve a good standard of living should acknowledge of the luck that has helped us get there. Unless you crawled out of the gutter, an orphan of the storm, unless you didn't/weren't able to avail yourself of free education at the point of use then I think the majority of people would recognise a degree of luck, family or society support that enabled us to educate ourselves and achieve monetary success.

We might have applied ourselves to help make our own luck, but others apply themselves equally hard to nursing and road sweeping and care work and retail work and childcare and cleaning etc etc (in fact all the jobs so essential to make your life work smoothly). Being born with a brain which works more efficiently is most likely a fluke of genetics and you mostly do need that to earn the kind of money in a professional job you allude to - you didn't earn it and without it only very driven personalities (which are in the minority) are likely to make life changing amounts of money which pay you enough to have the child of household help that you're holding up as a shining beacon of how to live.

Most people are the household help. And we're all high earning accountants and lawyers then as a country we're screwed.

lurked You really can be quite rude. We are all different and that adds to the spice of life. Deo has been an inspiration to me at least. I had a wobble after my first was born and I was laid off at the end of the fiscal period because I wouldn't travel for 3 weeks to a client when DD wasn't even 5 months old. I dusted myself off, rubbed my bruised ego and got back on the horse (yes I was 7 months pregnant with DS as I talked about in my previous post).

At the time there were a couple of posts from Deo that helped me see the wood through the trees and make a decision that was best for me and my family. I am very thankful for her insight and I can only hope that in another 10-15 years I am in an equally senior professional role. Her positive attitude is extremely important and something I do my best to always adopt. I just need to do a better job of being home for dinner and taking care of my health through better diet and exercise.

Love, I do understand that, but I do find it amusing that someone whose occupation is to put cases forward, or negotiate, shows little ability at it here.

Oh and I was right about that? Oh gosh, spare me yet another blinking London lawyer who thinks that they are some kind of capitalist genius when they have simply benefited from being in the right place at the right time, willing to work hard yes, but also in the right place at the right time, by fortune.

want2b

If you read back through the thread you will see much of the rudeness came from deo herself.
It's a shame that somebody who considers herself to be successful can't manage a bit of humility and empathy sometimes.

Oh and I was right about that? Oh gosh, spare me yet another blinking London lawyer who thinks that they are some kind of capitalist genius when they have simply benefited from being in the right place at the right time, willing to work hard yes, but also in the right place at the right time, by fortune.

It's definitely a B Ark type job.

A lot of my success came from the ridiculously hard graft my working calss grandparents put into hard manual labour above and beyond the norm to make enough money to keep my mother at private school which despite the scholarship had a prohibitively expensive uniform. Her only jacket what her school blazer - I can't imagine what they personally went without to try to keep her there (hence my posh accent which goes down so well on this thread) and my fathers parents who between them worked from 6am to midnight 6 days a week in their rough local pub which they built up from nothing so they had enough money to pay for my father to go to college. The first of his generation. And to raise money to buy the licence for the pub my grandfather managed to "stamp" almost double his target of metal baths at the big press of the tin stamping, mulching his fingers in the process.

They worked hard.

Frankly I sat in a nice clean office and read a lots of books and learnt a pile of stuff and soetimes didn't go out when my friends did because I had studying to do, in comparison it wasn't that difficult

V. Interesting thread. I think the important questions it raises are:

1. Is Deo that blunt When dealing with clients?
2. How can a long standing poster not recognise Deo immediately, Kew??
3. wouldn't it just be better all round if we were paid for sharing pearls of wisdom on MN?

1. Does she bill clients for time spent on mumsnet lol

B ark?

B ark?

Hitchhikers reference.
"These tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people who made things and did things, and the B ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitisers. They sent the B ship off first, but of course the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone."

sinking

Weren't management all sent somewhere too? I can't remember but seem to think it was another planet