To find this poster in a train station wrong?

[megadude]

Hi Mumsnetters,

I'd be interested to read your opinions about this poster. I don't want to say right now what I think about it, as I'd like to know how you'd interpret it.

TIA,
Megadude

Bert and Glitter sorry dont know how to tag you, new here. It isn't about mugging its about rape. It is an anti rape campaign. Of course men can be raped and attacked but the highest risk group is young women alone and drunk.

Just put a before and a after the persons name and it bolds it Alexa444 like so.

There are 28 pages of people disagreeing with you and saying that this poster is not about rape. That it is a 'general safety' message. That it is coincidental that only women appear on the poster. We have argued throughout that, no, this isn't the case. The poster is aimed at women preventing themselves being raped. Which is wrong on just so many levels and because of course, it leads to victim blaming.

Alexa, women are more likely to be raped by someone they know. Out on the streets it's young males who are most likely to be attacked.

In order to prevent rape we would have better results if we changed the mindset of our society which judges the victim, not the perpetrator, posters like this contribute directly to that mindset.

Itsmine- so why do there not appear to be any poster campaigns aimed at young men-telling them to stick together, to look after each other, to not make themselves vulnerable?

"Bert feel free to waste your time. However if you try and suggest there is no advice or 'campaigns' specifically aimed at young men who are at risk then I'll continue to disagree"

Nope. Not "trying to suggest" that at all. As I have said several times?

Are you trying to suggest that there are poster campaigns like the one in the OP aimed at young men?

Oh so it wasn't me...it was its

The relief

I just thought it meant "Don't fall off the platform"

"Narrow minded victim blaming agenda"

Meanie, I might cry now.

"Add message | Report | Message poster pookamoo Fri 19-Feb-16 16:41:40
I just thought it meant "Don't fall off the platform""

SO WHY IS IT TARGETTED TO WOMEN??????????!!!!!!!

^^ indeed.

Surely there's a difference between information you have to seek out, and a poster in your face at the station?

glitter cool thanks.

On the first page or possibly the second, I lose track there is a link to an artical about it that refers to it as an anti rape campaign? If I am mistaken and it is in fact general safety then yes very sexist, although I suppose well intentioned. Do excuse the typos and lack of grammar. I am on my phone and the tiny keyboard is driving me up the wall lol

I could google helpful advice online about anything. I wouldn't walk past the same advice, along with hundreds of other people, in a public place.

Alexa this poster on its own is an isolated one and many many people want us to believe that it's just general safety advice. The issue us that it features three relatively young women, dressed for a night out on the pop and tells us to take care of our friends, or else.....the message, to me, can only be interpreted as "don't wanna get raped? Don't go off alone wimmin".

I don't care who a campaign is aimed at. I care that it works

A safety campaign should be clear about its aims, it should present risk in an accurate manner, suggest workable strategies to diminish that risk and not encourage a false sense of security in the target audience and misinformation to the wider audience.

The poster the OP highlighted fails on all those counts.

And I agree with pookamoo. For all I know that poster is reminding attractive girls in parties of three not to fall off the platform.

It's vague. I suspect it's because the rail company felt they ought to do something but didn't have the guts to say: 'Women! We can't control rapists and we certainly don't want to compromise dividends to our shareholders by employing extra staff so would you mind looking out for yourselves or staying indoors?'

ps 'Your money is good with us between the hours of 7am and 7pm because other people will be around to police your safety, so keep buying those season tickets girls.'

limited if you could knock up a poster to that effect I'd love to see it. In fact I volunteer to be one of the pissed up risk taking poster girls clutching a bottle of lambrini and staggering down the High Street in heels very unsuited to running from rapists.

Thirty years ago I'd be up for the Lambrini and high heels photo shoot with you TooOld .

It's a shame attitudes regarding the absolute right of women to participate in society and enjoy safety and respect haven't moved on in the way that attitudes towards the right to safety of gay people or ethnic minorities has.

I am not saying gay people or ethnic minorities shouldn't be able to exist without people attacking them. Of course they should. I just hope for a day when my grand daughters might enjoy the same enlightenment.

And I'm not a member of a minority group btw

I couldn't agree more.

It seems that there's a long way to go for women's rights yet and as though every step forward is countered by ten steps back.

It's insane, isn't it?

Would we see a poster of Graham Norton, Stephen Fry and Alan Carr out on the lash with a sober reminder for gay men to look after themselves in case of gay bashers?

I haven't rtft but I think the idea behind the poster was well meaning.

If your so cross about it I'm sure you could contact the makers