New abortion scare tactics *sensitive warning, photo included*

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This is doing the rounds on fb at the moment.

Seriously

No one actually wants to see the reality. It's not nice to see. There's no denying that - this 100% And imo thats a problem. As something as divisive/important as this we shouldnt be glossing over the reality of it, hiding away under the pretence of 'dignity'.

I don't think that most women who go in for an abortion really think that what is going to be retrieved is a perfectly formed cherub, complete with wings and a halo. People know the reality, they don't need it shoved in their face when they go into their local town centre.

Highsteaks

It's not about religion. It's about what it truthfully looks like

Some people mentioned not knowing if they were seeing things when miscarrying and I think that's the aim; to show the reality of miscarriage and what to expect if you are in that situation

This thread is about if that photo is fake and looking at those pics I think it looks quite similar, but who knows for sure

That website seems genuine to me. Those are people's lost children

Sorry, I'm assuming that the 'divisive/important' issue here is abortion, rather than miscarriage?

It's not about religion.

Huh?

The tagline for that website is:

'Practical helps (sic) for miscarriage from an Orthodox Christian perspective'

I'm assuming it was about people saying the photo was fake

Even if it is fake it doesn't seem to be far off what a 12 week old baby actually looks like!!!

Some babies stop growing and developing earlier than others and then the human body has to go through the process of miscarrying.

Even if it is fake it doesn't seem to be far off what a 12 week old baby actually looks like!!!
It is very, very far off. I held and studied the face of my DD2 who died and was born at 16 weeks and she slightly resembled the OP's picture at that point but was bright purple and see through which takes away all of the 'baby-ness'.

Highsteaks

Miscarriage happens to 1 in 4 pregnancies. It doesn't discriminate by which/if any religion you are

It's just a fact of life. It happens

There is no autopsy carried out for 12 week old miscarriages. There are no regulations.

Different miscarriages occur for different reasons

One baby could be perfectly formed but have no brain function. One could have stopped growing at 10 weeks but not been miscarried until 12 weeks

There are websites which post photos of babies torn apart and people still say they arent real

On lost innocents, those are people's real children.

As I said before it's not nice to look at but its the reality

The photo is a world away from what a 12wo foetus actually looks like! I could write a list of the ways in which it is inaccurate from size down to colouring down to definition of its features. I have held an eight week foetus and I have held a four month old foetus. They do not look like that.

Taking pictures for personal reasons is one thing but posting them in a public place, including the Internet, is something else entirely. You're then taking away people's choice about whether they want to know the 'reality' or whether they'd rather live without knowing, thanks very much.

If you're having a miscarriage or a termination, the hospital tell you what to expect, what to look out for. They tell you when to call them and what's considering normal/not normal. When we lost a baby at four months because of how far along I was we were advised that the foetus would be recognisable and were asked did we want to see or would we rather everything was taken away. We did want to see so she was cleaned up and then brought to us. Even removed from the sac and cleaned up she was not pink, her facial features were rudimentary and lacking in fine detail, and she was not that size. She was recognisable as a human infant but you could tell she was unfinished. I have a photograph and would never share it with anyone. I took it for me and me alone and I know that not everyone wants to see things like that.

I respect a woman's right to choose what is in her womb and I also respect the rights of anyone who doesn't want to see graphic images of those womb contents.

Miscarriage happens to 1 in 4 pregnancies. It doesn't discriminate by which/if any religion you are

Yes, I know. But Lost Innocents is a religious website.

And didn't someone upthread say they work in this field and 12 week old foetuses categorically not look like that? And didn't the Snopes page say it was fake and post a picture of a 12 week foetus to show that it looks completely different?

A quick Google search can show anyone what aborted babies look like as at that age as well

Google is obviously the height of accuracy
Several people on this thread alone have stated their 12 week old fetus looked nothing like that.

Miscarriages happen for different reasons not every 12 week old will have developed at the same rate and not every person is 100% accurate about when they conceived

Go have a look then and post about what you think of the accuracy of abortion pictures

crumbly yes but its not an automatic condition like Edwards where you know the child will die. Many people with downs live very happy lives

I have had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. My baby looked like the picture that Krampus linked in the Snopes website. I don't know why I clicked on it.

Uare this is from an previous poster:

I used to work in paediatric pathology, part of which was dealing with pregnancy losses. I can say with 100% certainty that that picture is not what a 12 week old fetus looks like. It's far too big, too well-formed, and the wrong colour.

Hope that helps.

^^ seriously dont click ...

Totally fake picture but I also don't understand why the abortion limit is so late. Both pregnancies I've bought about it a lot around the 24 week mark and I just don't understand why it needs to be then. Surely if something is going to be picked up the latest is at the 20 wk anomaly scan.

Agree, don't click.

Go have a look then and post about what you think of the accuracy of abortion pictures
I've looked at all of the links posted. I have also looked at Google image miscarriage pictures before. I also held my own DD2 whose dates and death date I am confident of in my hands and looked at her with my very own eyes.

TheCatsMeow
Downs syndrome very often comes alongside some kind of possibly fatal organ disfunction. Lots of chromosomal disorders, the main being Downs syndrome, come along with deadly/life shortening heart issues that would mean they would suffer for a brief period of time before dying. My DD2 was one of those babies although she had 22q deletion, not Downs syndrome. Taking away the option to terminate for 'non-fatal' diagnoses would have left her in pain for at best a few months before death.

Why the fuck would you post a link like that Uare? (I haven't looked by the way).

And also why on earth would use assume that an anti-abortion website would be completely truthful when posting the developmental age of aborted foetuses?

UareWhatUeat
Had a look at that link too. My DD2 was fully intact when I had my tfmr as like the majority of late-term terminations I laboured and gave birth to her

Because at the twenty week anomaly scan if problems are flagged then it might necessitate a second opinion, and time for the parents to assess what they want to do. It's a terrible time for the parents and their family, plus the professionals who care for them.

crumbly that can be picked up though can't it? I'm not meaning that if the baby would die shortly after birth, that's very different.

I'm very sorry about your DD